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  • From: James Christian <jc.bhebrew AT googlemail.com>
  • To: robertsumner0110 AT wmconnect.com
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew
  • Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:15:54 +0300

I know. Maybe a typo, or maybe the best Freudian slip yet given his recent
input about pre-exilic Hebrew orthography.

James Christian

On 14 June 2010 03:05, <robertsumner0110 AT wmconnect.com> wrote:

>
> Perhaps a typo? "That's NOT how t works in scholarship"?
>
>
> Robert Shannon Sumner
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryant J. Williams III <bjwvmw AT com-pair.net>
> To: James Christian <jc.bhebrew AT googlemail.com>; Yitzhak Sapir <
> yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com>
> Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Sun, Jun 13, 2010 6:49 pm
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew
>
>
> Dear Yitzhak,
>
> [Yitzhak said],
> You and Karl and James have a habit of saying something is likely when
> really
> you have no evidence for it at all. That's now how it works in
> scholarship!
>
> [Bryant]
> If the above is what you believe to be true, then so be it. BUT that should
> NOT
> have been said where every one on the list can read i; I could understand
> in a
> privately sent e-mail. I, for one, did not appreciate the tone and
> accusation
> behind the above statement. I truly believe that an apologie is in order,
> not
> only to the gentlemen above, but also to the list.
>
> Furthermore, if the moderators think that I overstepped, then accept my
> apologies in advance.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Christian" <jc.bhebrew AT googlemail.com>
> To: "Yitzhak Sapir" <yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com>
> Cc: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 4:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew
>
>
> > Also, thanks for your announcement "That's now how it works in
> > scholarship!". Many of us were wondering why you presented theories
> lacking
> > evidence as fact. Your announcement seems to explain to us why you feel
> this
> > approach is scholarly. For those of us who were still behind and not up
> to
> > date with how present scholarship works we were still under the misguided
> > impression that you needed evidence and were wasting our time with
> > presenting it to you. We won't bother anymore as we now know that this is
> an
> > exercise in futility given your summary of how modern scholarship works.
> >
> > "saying something is likely when really you have no evidence for
> > it at all. That's now how it works in scholarship!"
> >
> > James Christian
> >
> > On 13 June 2010 11:24, James Christian <jc.bhebrew AT googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Yitzhak,
> > >
> > > not "likely" that there was an /sh/ either. You and Karl and James
> have
> > >> a habit of saying something is likely when really you have no evidence
> for
> > >> it at all. That's now how it works in scholarship!
> > >
> > >
> > > Excuse me! Was that attack at me absolutely necessary? I wasn't even
> > > participating in this discussion. Not only is your statement offensive
> but
> > > completely contrary to every participation I've made in discussions on
> this
> > > list. Any time I have offered a critique on your position it has been
> based
> > > on data and so your statement is completely unwarranted and not only
> > > gratuitously offensive. I think you've just made it onto my list of
> people
> > > not worth bothering replying to anymore. A shame really. In the past I
> > > enjoyed debating with you.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I've invited list members to turn theoretical knowledge into
> > > something practical by getting involved in working with producing a
> > > generation grammar for b-hebrew. Of all the list members I thought
> could
> > > benefit from this exercise you, with your constant theoretical
> statements
> > > lacking data, were the person I thought could benefit the most from
> getting
> > > involved in such an exercise. I was more than a little disappointed to
> see
> > > that instead of accepting such an invitation for an experience you
> could
> > > learn from you decided to insult me in a thread I had nothing to with
> and no
> > > intention of getting involved in.
> > >
> > > James Christian
> > >
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