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- From: JimStinehart AT aol.com
- To: kwrandolph AT gmail.com, b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 41: 1: "Two Years of Days"
- Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:32:59 EDT
Karl:
Let me set forth some more evidence now for the Hebrews celebrating a
spring New Year. (I believe that you and I do agree that from ancient times,
the
Hebrews celebrated a fall New Year. So the next question then is whether
the Hebrews also, or alternatively, celebrated a spring New Year as well.)
1. As to the antiquity of a spring New Year for the Hebrews, consider
Exodus 12: 1-2, concerning the Passover. Passover occurs in the spring. Here
is Exodus 12: 1-2:
“And the LORD spoke unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying:
'This month shall be unto you the beginning of months; it shall be the first
month of the year to you.’”
Thus as of the composition of the Book of Exodus, the Hebrews had the
tradition that March was the first month of the Hebrew year. That is a spring
New Year.
For people like yourself who view the Book of Exodus as being very old,
that shows that the tradition of the Hebrews celebrating a New Year in the
spring is very old. At least, the first month of the Hebrews’ year was in the
spring. That is a type of spring New Year.
For modern scholars who claim that the Book of Exodus is very late,
consider #2 below.
2. Some may recall that on October 24, 2007, Rev. Bryant J. Williams
posted some interesting facts about calendars in ancient Canaan. Here are a
few
brief excerpts, where Rev. Bryant J. Williams quoted jewishencyclopedia.com:
“There is much difference of opinion as to whether or not there was in
preexilic times a second mode of reckoning from the vernal [spring] equinox
[as
opposed to the Hebrews only celebrating a New Year in the fall]. This
inference [that there was a spring New Year for the Hebrews] has been drawn
from
such passages as II Sam. xi. 1, I Kings xx. 22, 26, and II Chron. xxxvi.
10. The expression used here, "at the return of the year," is, however,
sufficiently explained as "the time when kings go out"; that is to say, the
usual
time for opening a military campaign. Of course if the law of the Passover
(Ex. xii. 1; Lev. xxiii. 5; Num. ix. 1-5, xxviii. 16-17) is pre-exilic, the
question admits of no further argument. It seems, however, to be now very
generally accepted that this law in its present form is not earlier than the
sixth century and that
it represents post-exilic practise. According to this legislation, which
henceforth prevailed, the month Abib, or Nisan (March-April), became the
first
of the year. It is possible that this change was due, in part at least, to
the
influence of the Babylonian sacred year, which likewise began with the month
Nisan. It appears, however, that the festival of the New-Year continued to
be
observed in the autumn, perhaps originally on the tenth, and later on the
first
day of the seventh month, Tishri.
[Note the following in particular:] Josephus asserts (l.c. i. 3, § 3) that
while
Moses appointed Nisan to be the first month for the sacred festivals and
other
Solemnities [per Exodus 12: 2 above], he preserved the original order of
the months for buying and selling and for the transaction of other business.
The Seleucidan calendar, from 312 B.C., placed the beginning of the year in
the autumn; but it appears that
the Palestinian Jews still reckoned from the spring and dated the
Seleucidan era
according to that reckoning (see Schürer, "The Jewish People in the Time of
Jesus Christ," 2d ed., Eng. transl., I. i 36-46, on the dates in the Books
of
Maccabees; comp. Esth. iii. 7)."
_www.jewishencyclopedia.com_ (http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/) .
* * *
We see that amid a sea of contradictory evidence, the one thing that is
clear is that the Hebrews were very familiar with both a fall New Year and a
spring New Year. From the above, it seems clear that scholars cannot agree
among themselves which New Year was more important to the Hebrews in which
exact time periods.
3. Karl, how do you interpret II Samuel 11: 1 and Exodus 12: 1-2? Aren’t
they showing that a spring New Year was an ancient practice among the
Hebrews?
Jim Stinehart
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 41: 1: "Two Years of Days",
JimStinehart, 07/16/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 41: 1: "Two Years of Days", Joel C. Salomon, 07/16/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 41: 1: "Two Years of Days", K Randolph, 07/16/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 41: 1: "Two Years of Days",
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JimStinehart, 07/19/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 41: 1: "Two Years of Days", George Athas, 07/20/2009
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