Biblical Hebrew Forum

[James Read <J.Read-2 AT sms.ed.ac.uk>]

Hi,

Quoting K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>:

> Yitzhak:
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Yitzhak Sapir <yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi George,
> >
> > I think even Karl's "Lecturer" would count as oral tradition and
> > popular memory.  It is a historical claim -- that names and
> > titles were placed at the end of documents only in a particular
> > historical period (until 1500 BCE).  Yet, even though wide
> > evidence has been adduced to show that the historical claim
> > is wrong and was not part of the original theory that he is
> > advancing, he continues to hold on to what he remembers
> > (popular memory) and what he heard (oral tradition) and what
> > he remembers having heard.
>
>
> Here I’m being careful, neither accepting nor rejecting your input until
> further analysis. There are certain items that make me pause:
>
> 1) the lecturer clearly stated that it referred to titles and/or authors,
> the colophon you refer to is very different, in that it can include much
> different material and may actually omit title and author.
>
> 2) The author and/or title use is supported by the text of Genesis itself.
>
> 3) Your “early” counter examples have been pointed out by some historians
> actually to have dated from the early iron age, i.e. around 900 BC, rather
> than the 1800 BC claimed by the majority of academic historians. So there
> are questions about the validity of those counter examples.
>
> As for Ruth 4:18, the theory as I was taught rejects it. I personally have
> my doubts because it refers to events long after Ruth lived. The example of
> Ruth may actually be an example of a colophon instead of author and/or title
> use found in Genesis.

You still haven't commented on the occurence in Numbers, though, have you?

James Christian



> > Yitzhak Sapir
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
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