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  • From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
  • To: Tory Thorpe <torythrp AT yahoo.com>
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Job 6:16, was definite article in Isaiah 7:14
  • Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:05:28 -0400

Tory,

OK, this is the prevailing wisdom, but where did the translators get HA-QODRIYM as "They are dark" or "They are black"? In any event, in my opinion the pre-positioned HA- refers to mountains not water. Also, notice that Dalman is being careful in saying that the water is only never clear [niemals klar]. And what about the snow supposedly vanishing over them, is it above them on mount Xermon?

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Jun 21, 2007, at 2:11 PM, Tory Thorpe wrote:

--- Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu> wrote:

Harold,

I want to use this opportunity to register once more
my strong objection to the translation of the first
part of
Job 6:16 HA-QODRIYM MINI QARAX as "They are dark
because of ice". In my opinion HA-QODRIYM is
certainly
not "They are dark" or "They are black". This
translation
makes no sense factually, since how can something be
dark
because of ice, and not linguistically.

Perhaps an observation from G. Dalman will help:
"Dies Schwellwasser ist niemals klar" (Arbeit und
Sitte in
Palästina, I/2 [Gütersloh, 1928], p. 308). The
Jordan river will
swell in late spring (late April-early May) if enough
of the
precipitation in the form of snow and ice on Mount
Hermon
melts. This increases the river's flow and churns up
the earth
in its bed, which darkens the water. Thus, the water
does
actually become "dark" as a result of (melting) "ice".

Tory Thorpe





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