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  • From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
  • To: Brak <Brak AT neo.rr.com>
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Imperfect Nif'al 2FS
  • Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:14:36 -0400

John,

So that we are on common ground here are the equivalents [I take it that by # you mean SIN/SHIN]:
NG$ = Nun-Gimel-Shin
NGS = Nun-Gimel-Sin
NGF = נגף
I have used the example of the root NGF = NGP [Nun-Gimel-Pe] only because I had it written down in my notes.
As far as I can recall I have never encountered a Nif'al-sense form for NG$, 'approach, bring', in the Hebrew bible, and I have never heard it spoken either. The examples Page H. Kelley brings in his book Biblical Hebrew on page 303 are, in my opinion, doubtful. Both NIGA$ and NIG$AH appear to me to be in a peculiar Qal form [NAGA$ being absent for NG$] rather than Nif'al form. The N in both forms is radical not pronominal. HU NIGA$ plainly means 'he approached'.
For NPL, 'fall', we have the Qal form HU NAPAL, and the theoretical [never seen, never heard] Nif'al form HU NIPAL.
Notice that there is also no Nif'al form for the roots: )UC, 'haste', BO), 'come', QUM, 'rise', SUR, 'turn', RUC, 'run', $UB, 'return', and more.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Jun 13, 2007, at 3:06 PM, Brak wrote:

I'm confused. What is NGF
F in the Michigan Encoding is the Qamas.
Did you mean something else?

The grammar book uses NG# for the examples in the table showing the
various forms.
When you say that " NG$ does not come in Nifaal form " do you mean that
NG# can never be in that form, or that it just doesn't appear in the
Bible in that form?

If its the former: why would the grammar book use that word? If its the
later: what would it be theoretically?

I don't have the book in fornt of me now, but maybe when I do tomorrow I
can give the examples of the Imperfect Nif'al forms of the Pe Nun from
the book. Maybe some context will help with the question.


B"H
John Steven

"If you don't behave as you believe, you will end by believing as you
behave."
-Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen.


Isaac Fried wrote:

John,

NG$ does not come in a Nifaal form but NGS does. For NGF it is:
NIGAFT = N-I-GAF-T (you, singular, female, past)
TINAGFIY = T-I-NAGF-IY (you, singular, female, future)
The A vowel is just a puff of air. The NI$MAR = NI-$MAR form contains
the personal pronoun [or the pair of personal pronouns N-I for the
subject and the object] NI [kind of ANI or AN-HI] for the person
performing the act $MR upon itself. Thus, NI$MAR is 'he guarded
himself'. Roots, such as NG$, NGS, NGF, that have the misfortune to
start with the letter N lose one N, or one N gets to play at once the
two roles of radical and pronoun. So, instead of *NINGAF it is NIGAF.
To indicate a female actor Hebrew adds the personal pronoun AT
[shortened to a mere T] to the end of the verb, to have NIGAFT. In an
intended action, NI is replaced by TI [kind of ATI or AT-HI] to
produce TINAGFIY = T-I-NAGF-IY, 'you will defeat yourself'---directly
on indirectly. Notice that in the QAL form it is TI$MRIY = TI-$MR-IY
and NI$MOR = NI-$M-O-R. I tend to think the inserted -O- is HO = HU
for the object, the thing that we propose to guard.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Jun 13, 2007, at 10:31 AM, Brak wrote:



Hello,

I think I might have found another typo in my grammar book.
What would be the Imperfect Nif'al 2FS of
NG#

Thanks in advance.


--

B"H
John Steven

"If you don't behave as you believe, you will end by believing as you
behave."
-Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen.
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