Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>]

Brak,

It is certainly a typo. The 2fs, Nif'al, "Imperfect" [column 3 from  
the right, row 7 from the bottom, page 414 of Page H. Kelley:  
Biblical Hebrew] is correctly

תִּנָּגְשִי

In other words, a Schwaic Gimel is missing between the Nun and the  
Shin. I hope you see the Hebrew correctly.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Jun 17, 2007, at 8:27 PM, Brak wrote:

> Here's the list that the book gives on page 414:
>
> 3MS     YIN.FG"$
> 3FS     T.IN.FG"$
> 2MS     T.IN.FG"$
> 2FS     T.IN.F$IY
> 1CS     )EN.FG"$
> 3MP     YIN.FG:$W.
> 3FP     T.IN.FGA$:NFH
> 2MP     T.IN.FG:$W.
> 2FP     T.IN.FGA$:NFH
> 1CP     NIN.FG"$
>
> The 2FS is that one that has me wondering if its a typo since it  
> has the
> Gimel (the middle root letter) dropped.
> So is this a typo, or some odd grammar thing that the book fails to  
> explain?
>
> For those of you not familiar with the Michigan Encoding, here is a  
> key
> for the encoding above:
> ) = Aleph          . = Dagesh
> G = Gimmel         : = Sheva
> H = He             " = Sere
> W = Vav            A = Patach
> Y = Yod            F = Qamas
> N = Nun            E = Segol
> $ = Shin           I = Chireq
>
>
>
>
>
>
> B"H
> John Steven
>
> "If you don't behave as you believe, you will end by believing as you
> behave."
> -Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen.
>
>
> Brak wrote:
>
> > I'm confused. What is NGF
> > F in the Michigan Encoding is the Qamas.
> > Did you mean something else?
> >
> > The grammar book uses NG# for the examples in the table showing the
> > various forms.
> > When you say that " NG$ does not come in Nifaal form " do you mean  
> > that
> > NG# can never be in that form, or that it just doesn't appear in the
> > Bible in that form?
> >
> > If its the former: why would the grammar book use that word? If  
> > its the
> > later: what would it be theoretically?
> >
> > I don't have the book in fornt of me now, but maybe when I do  
> > tomorrow I
> > can  give the examples of the Imperfect Nif'al forms of the Pe Nun  
> > from
> > the book. Maybe some context will help with the question.
> >
> >
> > B"H
> > John Steven
> >
> > "If you don't behave as you believe, you will end by believing as you
> > behave."
> > -Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen.
> >
> >
> > Isaac Fried wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > NG$ does not come in a Nifaal form but NGS does. For NGF it is:
> > > NIGAFT = N-I-GAF-T (you, singular, female, past)
> > > TINAGFIY = T-I-NAGF-IY (you, singular, female, future)
> > > The A vowel is just a puff of air. The NI$MAR = NI-$MAR form  
> > > contains
> > > the personal pronoun [or the pair of personal pronouns N-I for the
> > > subject and the object] NI [kind of ANI or AN-HI] for the person
> > > performing the act $MR upon itself. Thus, NI$MAR is 'he guarded
> > > himself'. Roots, such as NG$, NGS, NGF, that have the misfortune to
> > > start with the letter N lose one N, or one N gets to play at once  
> > > the
> > > two roles of radical and pronoun. So, instead of *NINGAF it is  
> > > NIGAF.
> > > To indicate a female actor Hebrew adds the personal pronoun AT
> > > [shortened to a mere T] to the end of the verb, to have NIGAFT.  
> > > In an
> > > intended action, NI is replaced by TI [kind of ATI or AT-HI] to
> > > produce TINAGFIY = T-I-NAGF-IY, 'you will defeat yourself'--- 
> > > directly
> > > on indirectly. Notice that in the QAL form it is TI$MRIY = TI-$MR-IY
> > > and NI$MOR = NI-$M-O-R. I tend to think the inserted -O- is HO = HU
> > > for the object, the thing that we propose to guard.
> > >
> > > Isaac Fried, Boston University
> > >
> > > On Jun 13, 2007, at 10:31 AM, Brak wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I think I might have found another typo in my grammar book.
> > > > What would be the Imperfect Nif'al 2FS of
> > > > NG#
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > B"H
> > > > John Steven
> > > >
> > > > "If you don't behave as you believe, you will end by believing  
> > > > as you
> > > > behave."
> > > > -Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen.
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