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- From: Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
- To: b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] oral Torah
- Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:07:48 +0200
Dear All,
I stepped out of this thread as soon as it stopped being a discussion of Jacob's daughters and shifted to one of Jewish and Christian theology. But here's a point that should be clarified:
In response to a statement by Shoshanna about the Oral Torah, someone commented:
To which Harold answered: Not really. If God wants something to be a permanent rule of lifeIt does raise the question though of whether God's written communication is
greater in authority than his verbal communication [or vice versa].
for His people, he has a prophet write it down. That's all.
Here's a basic difference between Christian and Jewish views. In (Rabbinic) Judaism, God is considered to have given the Law (written and Oral) once, at Sinai (of course, this was an ongoing process which took 38 years). In his omniscient wisdom, God made His Torah such, that it would have solutions for any possible situation "built in", so that the Torah would NEVER have to be "ammended". A major componant of the Oral Torah is the "codes" by which the Torah itself is to be interpreted, and these were passed down from Moses to Joshua and on to the elders, the members of the Great Assembly, and from them to what we now call "rabbis". Both preists and prophets are outside this "chain of command". The function of Priests, that is, decsendants of Aaron, is to perform the perscribed rituals in the Temple. The function of Prophets, that is, people who receive "direct" messages from God, is to warn the people of their transgressions or to give them hope for the future, NOT to interpret the Law.
Of course, there were individuals who were either both priest and prophet, priest and rabbi, or prophet and rabbi. Ezra was all three, which gives him a lot of clout in Jewish tradition. But the functions themselves are seperate.
The Talmud recounts several stories of rabbis discussing a point of Law, when suddenly either a heavenly voice or a prophet (even Elijah!) appeared and gave "God"'s view on the matter, to which the rabbis replied "It [the Law] is not in heaven" (Deut. 30:12) - once the Torah was given to us, we have sole authority over its interpretation.
Of course, historically speaking, this interpretation has not been held by all Jews throughhout history. The Sadducees, who were mostly priests, both denied the authority of the Oral Torah and of the rabbis who considered themselves to be its stewards. But this has become the "mainstream" view of post-Destruction Rabbinic Judaism.
Yigal
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Re: [b-hebrew] daughters jacob never spoke of
, (continued)
- Re: [b-hebrew] daughters jacob never spoke of, Shoshanna Walker, 06/22/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] daughters jacob never spoke of, Harold Holmyard, 06/22/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] daughters jacob never spoke of,
JAMES CHRISTIAN READ, 06/21/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] daughters jacob never spoke of, Harold Holmyard, 06/22/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] daughters jacob never spoke of, Shoshanna Walker, 06/22/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] daughters jacob never spoke of, JAMES CHRISTIAN READ, 06/22/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] daughters jacob never spoke of, JAMES CHRISTIAN READ, 06/22/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] daughters jacob never spoke of,
Shoshanna Walker, 06/22/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] daughters jacob never spoke of,
Harold Holmyard, 06/22/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] daughters jacob never spoke of,
Harold Holmyard, 06/22/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] oral Torah,
Yigal Levin, 06/23/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] oral Torah,
Harold Holmyard, 06/23/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] oral Torah, Yigal Levin, 06/23/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] oral Torah, Harold Holmyard, 06/23/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ezra is Malachi???, Lisbeth S. Fried, 06/23/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ezra is Malachi???, Yitzhak Sapir, 06/23/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ezra is Malachi???, Yigal Levin, 06/24/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] oral Torah,
Harold Holmyard, 06/23/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] oral Torah,
Yigal Levin, 06/23/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] daughters jacob never spoke of,
Harold Holmyard, 06/22/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] oral Torah, Brak, 06/23/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] oral Torah, Peter Kirk, 06/23/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] oral Torah, Brak, 06/23/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] oral Torah, Lisbeth S. Fried, 06/23/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] daughters jacob never spoke of,
Harold Holmyard, 06/22/2006
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