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@Karl:


What's a BDAG?

Response: A Greek Lexicon of The New Testament and Other Christian Literature.

It is one of the best Greek lexicons out right now just as HALOT is probably 
the best Hebrew lexicon out right now.

> ----------------------------------

Karl:I got the right verse, I also read to make sure the 
contextual verses around it as well.

I read the KY here as introducing a subordinate clause 
that is a statement indicating why God will bless David. 
Saul is stating a principle, hence his use of the third 
person here, then returns to David in the second person.
If H.A.L.O.T. disagrees with me here, then I think that 
H.A.L.O.T. is wrong.

Response:  Tell you what, translate the verse for me without making it a 
rhetorical question and see if it makes sense.  If you make it a rhetorical 
question, then one must ask why did you make it a question, if not, then I'd 
like to see you make sense out of it.  But note the NIV and NASB, and NET all 
have it as rhetorical question. And I did supply two sources both of which 
are realible to explain where it came from, so I'd like to see your thinking 
on this one.

Karl:Thus I find the claim that KY can introduce an interrogative 
without the presence of an interrogative prefixed H- has 
no basis other than two disputed verses (that these are 
in fact questions), therefore the whole concept itself is 
questionable.

Response: Well, I've tried to give you sources and verses to go along with 
it, that is about the extent of my resources on this verse.  So if you don't 
think they are questions the only thing I would ask is for an alternate 
translation then we can probably call it quits unless someone else has any 
suggestions.
> ---------------------------------------------

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It's actually usually abbreviated BAGD, for Bauer-Arndt-Gingrich-Danker.  
Bauer was the original compiler, Arndt and Gingrich did a major revision, and 
Danker did another one.  It's easier to type than the actual title.

On Friday 18 November 2005 20:10, kgraham0938 AT comcast.net wrote:
> @Karl:
>
>
> What's a BDAG?
>
> Response: A Greek Lexicon of The New Testament and Other Christian
> Literature.
>
> It is one of the best Greek lexicons out right now just as HALOT is
> probably the best Hebrew lexicon out right now.
>
> > ----------------------------------
>
> Karl:I got the right verse, I also read to make sure the
> contextual verses around it as well.
>
> I read the KY here as introducing a subordinate clause
> that is a statement indicating why God will bless David.
> Saul is stating a principle, hence his use of the third
> person here, then returns to David in the second person.
> If H.A.L.O.T. disagrees with me here, then I think that
> H.A.L.O.T. is wrong.
>
> Response:  Tell you what, translate the verse for me without making it a
> rhetorical question and see if it makes sense.  If you make it a rhetorical
> question, then one must ask why did you make it a question, if not, then
> I'd like to see you make sense out of it.  But note the NIV and NASB, and
> NET all have it as rhetorical question. And I did supply two sources both
> of which are realible to explain where it came from, so I'd like to see
> your thinking on this one.
>
> Karl:Thus I find the claim that KY can introduce an interrogative
> without the presence of an interrogative prefixed H- has
> no basis other than two disputed verses (that these are
> in fact questions), therefore the whole concept itself is
> questionable.
>
> Response: Well, I've tried to give you sources and verses to go along with
> it, that is about the extent of my resources on this verse.  So if you
> don't think they are questions the only thing I would ask is for an
> alternate translation then we can probably call it quits unless someone
> else has any suggestions.
>
> > ---------------------------------------------
>
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> Kelton Graham
> KGRAHAM0938 AT comcast.net
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