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- From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] midwives
- Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:56:24 -0500
Bryan:
Not so quick.
#6 under the Hebrew side, the "Egyptian" midwives would
have had Semitic names, if they were Hyksos.
So the score is 5 - 6, in favor of "Egyptian".
There are several indications in the text that the Pharaoh
of the Exodus was Hyksos, which would mean the Moses
was born not long after the Hyksos came to power.
Karl W. Randolph.
----- Original Message -----
From: "B. M. Rocine" <brocine AT twcny.rr.com>
>
> B-Haverim,
>
> SCORE TIED 6-6 WITH HEBREWS WINNING?
>
> Thanks for the discussion! Here is a review of the "midwives" thread.
> Of course folks are weighing the evidence as they see fit. Am I
> forgetting amything? Any more comments?
>
> For Hebrew midwives:
>
> 1a. the patakh under the first lamed of _lamyalldot_ indicates
> _ha`ibriyyot_ must be an adjective.
> 1b. We don't like to tamper with the MT.
> 2. the LXX.
> 3. other translation tradition.
> 4. traditional Jewish commentary.
> 5. the midwives feared God.
> 6. the names are likely Semitic in origin.
>
> For Egyptian midwives:
>
> If we change the patakh under the lamed to hireq, the expression
> _limyalldot ha`ibriyyot_ becomes a construct chain translatable as "the
> midwives of the Hebrews." This change would not necessitate the
> midwives being Hebrews, but it opens the door to their being Egyptians.
> Support includes:
>
> 1. Pharaoh was surprised they didn't obey.
> 2. The midwives engaged in critical talk about Egyptian women.
> 3. It's easier to imagine Pharaoh would ask Egyptian women to kill
> Hebrew children.
> 4. They are twice mentioned as fearing God as if it is remarkable.
> 5. The expression in v. 21 "and He made them houses" seems more worth
> saying if the "them" are non-Hebrews.
> 6. A rule for narration may exist whereby participants in a following
> narrative must first be introduced in the indefinite before they are named.
>
>
>
> Shalom,
> Bryan
>
>
>
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives
, (continued)
-
Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Yigal Levin, 11/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, Steve Miller, 11/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, JP vd Giessen (FOL), 11/01/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
B. M. Rocine, 11/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, B. M. Rocine, 11/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, Peter Kirk, 11/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, Karl Randolph, 11/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Karl Randolph, 11/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Yigal Levin, 11/05/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Peter Kirk, 11/05/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, Yigal Levin, 11/05/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Peter Kirk, 11/05/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Yigal Levin, 11/05/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Karl Randolph, 11/05/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, Yigal Levin, 11/05/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, Karl Randolph, 11/05/2005
- [b-hebrew] midwives, Uri Hurwitz, 11/06/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Yigal Levin, 11/04/2005
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