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- From: Jim West <jwest AT highland.net>
- To: Heard Christopher <Christopher.Heard AT pepperdine.edu>, b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?
- Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:02:45 -0400
Really interesting stuff Chris, and I have to admit, persuasive. But I wonder- has the fact that the definite article dropped out signalled something of a further development in terms of "satanology" (forgive me that) in the Hebrew Bible? That is- in older texts, Yahweh causes weal and woe. In Job, HaSatan causes woe. In the Chronicler Satan (as a full blown proper name) is given credit for inciting David to act against Yahweh's wishes. Does that make sense? In other words, we have, within the HB itself, a clear, temporally noticeable development of this theme.
Heard Christopher wrote:
Although 2 Samuel 24:1 vs. 1 Chronicles 21:1 is a _locus classicus_ in understanding the difference between the Chronicler's treatment of David and the Deuteronomistic Historian's treatment of David, and although I have often thought about the texts in question in the terms Jim expressed earlier, quoted above, in the last few times I have looked at these verses, I have begun to doubt its accuracy.
Specifically, in 1 Chronicles 21:1 it is _not_ השטן [H&+N] that incites David to count the people; it is merely שטן [&+N] (no definite article). Now the lack of a definite article is very important here, it seems to me. For the verse ought not be translated "Satan opposed [stood against] Israel, and incited David to count Israel," nor "The Adversary opposed ..." since there is no definite article, but rather, "_An_ adversary opposed ...," with an indefinite article. Now I wonder--I have not done the real legwork on this yet, so I'm thinking out loud--whether the Chronicler thinks he is referring to YHWH, or an entity other than YHWH, by this word, indefinite שטן [&+N]. The Hebrew word שטן [&+N], of course, does not _inherently_ refer to some malignant supernatural entity; see 1 Kings 11:23-25, where the noun שטן [&+N] refers to a purely human opponent, though one who, importantly, was incited _by God_ to be such. Moreover, there is nothing semantically out of bounds about God being a שטן [&+N], or at least we can say that at least one writer had no trouble characterizing the מאלך יהוה [M)LK YHWH] "angel of YHWH" as a שטן [&+N] to someone (Numbers 22:22). Clearly, the Chronicler is altering his Deuteronomistic source text. But is he completely changing the referent, or just using a subtle circumlocution?
Chris
Best,
Jim
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[b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?,
Evgeny Ivanov, 08/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?, Harold R. Holmyard III, 08/04/2005
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?, Revdpickrel, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?,
Heard, Christopher, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?,
Jim West, 08/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] 2 Sam 24 vs. 2 Chron 21 (was something else), Heard, Christopher, 08/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?, Harold R. Holmyard III, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?,
Heard, Christopher, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?,
Heard, Christopher, 08/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?, Harold R. Holmyard III, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 08/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?, Heard, Christopher, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?,
Heard, Christopher, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?,
Heard, Christopher, 08/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?, Peter Kirk, 08/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?,
Jim West, 08/04/2005
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