Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Read, James C" <K0434995 AT kingston.ac.uk>]

There is no theology of triads in tanakh. More likely a foreign philosophy
with strong pagan roots which made its way into Christian church in 4th 
century via Constantine's amalgamation of Christianiy with Roman pagan 
practices.

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Three Kingdoms, Three Rulers, Three letters in Yao - Triad

Thirty - Shun starts his public work at 30, so does Jesus, so does Zoroaster
etc.

60 or 600, the start or end of an event, i.e. 61st year it says the flood
started; in Noah's 601st year I believe the waters started to recede.

 

I'd have to look up specifically the 72; I just know that number is used
often as well.

 

-patrick

 

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Sorry, could you expand on the number thing? I didn't really follow what
you are trying to say.

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Yes, other numbers that draw attention are 3, 30, 60 and 72 to identify a
few.  In the text it is actually 61 for 60 and 73 for 72.



-patrick



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I have read that the chinese character for flood is composed of other
charcters which literally mean '8 people in a boat'.

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Besides "Yao" in my previous link, I think one can see a great many
commonalities with regards to the Chinese scriptures and other cultures
scriptures/histories.  IMHO

-patrick

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The following link provides a history of the Chinese:

http://www.threekingdoms.com/history.htm#2_3_1

It states that:

 All accounts, however, agree that the basin of the Yellow River was the
cradle of the Chinese culture, and that their ancestors were a nomadic
people who, some five or six thousand years ago, migrated from the
north-western part of Asia and finally settled in the northern-central part
of what is now China.

END QUOTE

This could well have been a migrating family descendent of one of Noah's
three children.

It goes on to speak of a legend:

2. Mythological Era
(BC 5000-2200)

2.1. Age of the Three Divine Rulers

Given the first rank among the chieftains is Fuxi, or "Conqueror of
Animals." He taught his subjects how to catch animals and fish with nets and
to rear domestic animals for food. He is also the originator of the writing
system which, with their improvements and modifications of ages, has been
handed down to us in the form of the modern Chinese characters.

END QUOTE

Could this be Nimrod? Nimrod the great hunter in opposition to Yahoweh? The
strokes of Chinese writings seem
to have a lot in common with the strokes we see in cuneiform tablets and
this could explain why so many Japanese words seem to come from semitic
roots.


Any thoughts?

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On 02/08/2005 14:29, Vadim Cherny wrote:

>In the verb hypothesis, some transliteration of he would be expected, and
>the word could resemble Ieue, albeit remotely.
>In my hypothesis of 1-2-3ms suffixes, I could imagine Iaoe, but not Ieue,
>unless in rapid pronunciation.
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I wonder if you would accept Iaoue as sufficiently close to your "Ieue".
After all, upsilon on its own is improbable as Greek routinely used the
omicron-upsilon diphthong for the sound "w". And don't forget that
Clement's form was (probably) Iaoue. Theodoret's Iabe is a variant of
Iaoue from a time or dialect when the "w" sound had changed to "v",
which by then was the pronunciation of Greek beta. So, Clement's and
Theodoret's evidence supports "the verb hypothesis".

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