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[Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>]

"Lisbeth S. Fried" <lizfried AT umich.edu> wrote:

".... It is my
understanding of modern Arabic that spoken Arabic
differs mightily from the written. When two who
speak the same spoken Arabic dialect write letters
they still must use the written form, since
according to my informants, you cannot write the
spoken form. If all this is correct, it implies
that these Aramaic letters, which sound so
colloquial, may not reveal the spoken language at
all, but could reveal rather only a language used
for writing. ..."

   Well,. that's only partially correct, since by an large  colloquial Arabic 
uses fewer consonants than the standard literary language.

   Also, captions in cartoons etc can be written in the colloquial language.

  Uri





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"Lisbeth S. Fried" <lizfried AT umich.edu> wrote:
Dear Yigal,
There are Neo-Babylonian pictures, but I can't
recall where, which show two scribes, one writing
on clay and one on papyrus, the one with a stylus,
the other a pen."...
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>   Yes, but wasn't this an earlier, Neo Assyrian relief? ( They  were the 
> first to introduce Aramaic in the adminstration of the Western part of 
> their empire.)

   In the old and currently defunct ANE someone would have cleared this up in 
two seconds.

  Best,

   Uri
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de Regt's paper has actually been published:

de Regt, Lénart. "Hebrew Syntactical Inversions and their Literary 
Equivalence in Robert Alter's Translation of Genesis." The Bible Translator 
54 (2003): 111-121.

Regards,
David Kummerow.


>To all discourse analysists out there!
>
>
>
>I recently re-read Lenart de Regt?s paper critiquing Alter?s translation of 
>Genesis, and specifically his use of word-order. One thing that Alter 
>doesn?t really discuss is how English handles topic, contrastive focus, and 
>salient information. In order to properly critique Alter one would need to 
>know this. Who has done work on discourse analysis of English?
>
>
>
>REF:
>
>Hebrew Syntactical Inversions and their Literary Equivalence in Robert 
>Alter?s Translation of Genesis, unpublished paper from seminar on Hebrew 
>Discourse Features at HG, UK, Autumn 2002.
>
>
>
>David Gray
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