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- From: "Vadim Cherny" <vadim_lv AT center-tv.net>
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- Subject: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8
- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:42:20 +0200
Karl:
As far as I understand and agree with Peter's argument, it only means that
lmo is smihut form of lamo.
Peter's argument, as I see it, neither explains the origin of lamo (which, in
my opinion, is l:hem:o), nor impeaches the collective plural meaning of lamo.
The fact that very few instances of lmo may possibly relate to singular is
easily understandable, since smihut form evolved into preposition, and its
semantics expanded.
How do we know that it is lamo, not lmo in Isaiah? Well, if you don't believe
Masoretes wrote absolutely correct, you have no material to study the Bible,
since every word could be vocalized differently to suit almost any meaning.
Vadim Cherny
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Yigal,
Again, the only thing I can think of here is that the "clash" of the
kaph, indicating approximation, with the number which appears to be
exact, is the narrator's way of indicating that the number is not to be
taken as exact, but as an indication of something else being
communicated. Perhaps the tradition to which he had access actually did
have an exact number (34? 38?) but he has "rounded" it to a multiple of
12 in order to communiciate something along the lines of the twelve
tribes engaged in the battle.
Blessings,
Jerry
Dr. Jerry E. Shepherd
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-----Original Message-----
From: Yigal Levin [mailto:leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il]
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 12:30 PM
To: b-hebrew
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] "about" Josh. 7:4-5
Thank you Jerry and James for pointing out that 36 is a multiple of 12,
which is, of course, a significant number in the Bible. So why not say,
"about 12". Why 36? Why the "code"?
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Vadim Cherny, 12/15/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Peter Kirk, 12/15/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Vadim Cherny, 12/15/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Peter Kirk, 12/15/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Vadim Cherny, 12/15/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Peter Kirk, 12/15/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Vadim Cherny, 12/15/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Peter Kirk, 12/15/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Karl Randolph, 12/15/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Peter Kirk, 12/15/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Yigal Levin, 12/15/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Karl Randolph, 12/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Karl Randolph, 12/16/2004
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[b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Vadim Cherny, 12/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Peter Kirk, 12/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Vadim Cherny, 12/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Peter Kirk, 12/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Vadim Cherny, 12/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Peter Kirk, 12/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Vadim Cherny, 12/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Peter Kirk, 12/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Karl Randolph, 12/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Peter Kirk, 12/18/2004
- [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Vadim Cherny, 12/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Karl Randolph, 12/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Vadim Cherny, 12/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Vadim Cherny, 12/15/2004
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