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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Vadim Cherny <vadim_lv AT center-tv.net>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8
- Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:26:21 +0000
On 17/12/2004 08:51, Vadim Cherny wrote:
Well, clearly lifney can be used in various non-literal ways, originally metaphorical extensions which have become partially frozen. But the same is true of the English equivalent "in the face of" which can be used of such inanimate concepts as "difficulties".is easily understandable, since smihut form evolved into preposition, andThe fact that very few instances of lmo may possibly relate to singular
its semantics expanded.
Possible, but unlikely in my opinion.
In your example of panim, lifney tzohoraim is wider than "face." A word,
which is an object itself, evidently has narrower sense than the same word
only referring to the object. The latter has, so to say, wider degree of
freedom.
And the absolute form PANIYM also has its metaphorical uses e.g. in mippaniym in 2 Samuel 10:9 which means something like "in front", and lepaniym which means "forward" in Jer 7:24, and "formerly" in several other places.
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Peter Kirk
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Peter Kirk, 12/15/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Vadim Cherny, 12/15/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Karl Randolph, 12/15/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Peter Kirk, 12/15/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Yigal Levin, 12/15/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Karl Randolph, 12/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Karl Randolph, 12/16/2004
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[b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Vadim Cherny, 12/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Peter Kirk, 12/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Vadim Cherny, 12/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Peter Kirk, 12/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Vadim Cherny, 12/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Peter Kirk, 12/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Vadim Cherny, 12/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Peter Kirk, 12/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Karl Randolph, 12/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Peter Kirk, 12/18/2004
- [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Vadim Cherny, 12/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Karl Randolph, 12/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8, Vadim Cherny, 12/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8,
Peter Kirk, 12/15/2004
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