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- From: "Harold R. Holmyard III" <hholmyard AT ont.com>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8
- Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:35:20 -0500
Dear Clay,
A good suggestion. The LXX, Codex B, shows a relative pronoun followed by
a finite verb 3rd person singular. Codex A has a functional equivalent:
the masculine singular nominative article + participle. In both manuscripts
it is clear that )nky is **not** considered the subject of the verb h(lyty.
Judg. 6:8 ... )nky h(lyty )tkM mmcryM ...
The syntax of in the LXX suggests that )nky is outside of the following
clause. This certainly permits (not requires) )nky to be a fronted
constituent functioning pragmatically as a focus marker.
I am not following any particular theory here, I am being eclectic :-)
HH: The Greek translators just rendered the Hebrew with the emphasis they felt the pronoun )NKY required. This involved the insertion of a relative particle and also a linking verb for it, but they were trying to represent the Hebrew where the pronoun is obviously the subject of the verb. The translation I offered in English, without looking at the Greek, did the same thing. It is somewhat unavoidable sometimes, the structure of Greek and English being slightly different than that of Hebrew:
Judg. 6:8 he sent them a prophet, who said, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: It is I who brought you up out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
Yours,
Harold Holmyard
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[b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/05/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Dave Washburn, 10/05/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/05/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Dave Washburn, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/06/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8, C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Dave Washburn, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Peter Kirk, 10/06/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8, Dave Washburn, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/05/2004
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[b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
David Kummerow, 10/06/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8, Dave Washburn, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Dave Washburn, 10/08/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/08/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Robert D. Holmstedt, 10/08/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8, Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/08/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Robert D. Holmstedt, 10/08/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/08/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Dave Washburn, 10/08/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Dave Washburn, 10/05/2004
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