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- From: "C. Stirling Bartholomew" <jacksonpollock AT earthlink.net>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8
- Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:18:28 -0700
On 10/5/04 2:37 PM, "Dave Washburn" <dwashbur AT nyx.net> wrote:
> The biggest problem I see with this idea is that, like so many others, he
> assumes that the basal constituent order in Hebrew is V - S, which may or
> may
> not be the case.
Agreed.
> Most of the grammars out there assume this order mainly
> because the wayyiqtol form is so prevalent in the HB, and this form is
> always
> clause-initial. But there is strong evidence that it is a "derived" form
> (for lack of a better term) that has in fact itself been "fronted," and the
> basal order in Heb. is S - V - (O). If this is the case, then we don't
> really have a pronoun being "fronted" here. Since this is the first clause
> in a section of direct speech, it would appear to me that it simply
> identifies the new speaker. Whether that puts emphasis on the "who" rather
> than the "what" is another issue, more involved with pragmatics than with
> syntax. Or so ISTM.
So lets ignore the position of the pronoun and ask the question why do we
see a pronoun at all? What is the function of the pronoun. I agree this has
to do with issues other than syntax. "Focus" isn't a syntax issue.
Thanks,
Clay Bartholomew
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[b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/05/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Dave Washburn, 10/05/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/05/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Dave Washburn, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/06/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8, C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Dave Washburn, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Peter Kirk, 10/06/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8, Dave Washburn, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/05/2004
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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[b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
David Kummerow, 10/06/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8, Dave Washburn, 10/06/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8, C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8,
Dave Washburn, 10/05/2004
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