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- From: Brian Roberts <formoria AT carolina.rr.com>
- To: Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
- Cc: b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion
- Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:54:53 -0400
What if an exodus event took place at the end of Akhenaten's father's life?
Akhenaten had broken away by then. at least religiously, his henotheistic views being well-documented before his father's death. What if Psalm 104 carries echoes of the Hymn to the Aten because the departing Hebrews took it with them?
R. Brian Roberts
On Saturday, July 17, 2004, at 06:38 PM, Yigal Levin wrote:
I'll have to have a look at these. The way I see it is this:
1.Even during Akhenaten's reign, his "special" views don't seem to have been well know in Canaan. As far as I remember (please correct me if I'm wrong here), the Canaanite vassals refer to Akhenaten as "the Sun", "the Bull" and Horus - no references to Aten.
2. Very soon after the death of Akhenaten and his immediate successors, the "Amarna revolution" was pretty much erased from Egyptian history, including the abandonment of the capital at El-Amarna itself. Manetho, for instance, does not mention the whole episode and its re-discovery in the late 19th century was quite a surprise. So the possibility of "Atenism" having any real influence on much later Judahite/Israelite monotheism is very slight. Besides, it seems that "Atenism" was quite far from real monotheism.
Yigal
----- Original Message -----
From: Uri Hurwitz
To: Yigal Levin ; b-hebrew
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion
For an opposing position one may consult J.C. De Moor The Rise of Yahwism, and especially the aptly titled chapter 3.: " The Crisis of Polytheism";
or W. Propp's article in Ugarit Forschung 31;
or,briefly, in Kitchen's recent On The Reliability of the OT, pp. 330-332.
I think their views deserve serious consideration and, in fact a re-examination of the subject which is exactly what Propp has done in his paper (shades of Kaufmann and Albright and even Freud!)
Uri
Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il> wrote:
....the
question is, what influence did the short lived "Amarna Revolution" have on
the eventual development of monotheism in Israel/Judah. My position would
be - none.
Yigal
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ark of the Covenant (Iron Age Exemplar Found ?)
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ark of the Covenant (Iron Age Exemplar Found ?),
Peter Kirk, 07/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion,
Brian Roberts, 07/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 07/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion,
Yigal Levin, 07/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion,
Peter Kirk, 07/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion, Dora Smith, 07/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion,
Dora Smith, 07/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion, Yigal Levin, 07/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion,
Uri Hurwitz, 07/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion, Yigal Levin, 07/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion, Brian Roberts, 07/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion,
Peter Kirk, 07/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion,
Yigal Levin, 07/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion, Dora Smith, 07/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 07/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion, Dora Smith, 07/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Akhenaten and Hebrew religion,
Brian Roberts, 07/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ark of the Covenant (Iron Age Exemplar Found ?), Tony Costa, 07/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ark of the Covenant (Iron Age Exemplar Found ?),
Peter Kirk, 07/16/2004
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