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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
- Cc: b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22
- Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 02:22:05 -0700
On 20/04/2004 00:05, Yigal Levin wrote:
Yes, it is an Aramaic transltation of Ps. 22. Presumably, either JesusBut Mark's "Eloi" sounds more like Hebrew Elohi, suggesting that Jesus was misquoting Hebrew (or quoting a different Hebrew text), i.e. using a different word for "God", for the first half of the verse. Matthew's "Eli" looks like a correction to match the Hebrew better. Neither form is Aramaic, surely.
himself, or whoever recorded what he said, was a native speaker of Aramaic.
This was fairly common among first century Jews.
Yigal
----- Original Message -----
From: <david.kimbrough AT charter.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:17 AM
Subject: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22
Mark 15:34: "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"
Mat 27:46 "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?"
22nd Psalm "Eliy, Eliy, lama azabetani" yle) yle) mh yntbz(
The cry of Jesus on the cross as recorded by two of the
Gospels does not match the Hebrew in the 22nd Psalm. I
have been told that Mark 15:34 is actually Aramaic, as is
the the second half of Mat 27:46. Is this correct?
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Peter Kirk
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[b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22,
david.kimbrough, 04/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22,
Yigal Levin, 04/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22,
Peter Kirk, 04/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22,
Trevor Peterson, 04/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22, Peter Kirk, 04/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22, Dave Washburn, 04/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22, Dora Smith, 04/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22,
Yigal Levin, 04/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22, Dora Smith, 04/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22,
Trevor Peterson, 04/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22,
Peter Kirk, 04/20/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22,
Ken Penner, 04/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22,
Peter Kirk, 04/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22,
CS Bartholomew, 04/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22, CS Bartholomew, 04/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22,
CS Bartholomew, 04/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22,
Peter Kirk, 04/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mark 15:34, Mat 27:46, & Psalm 22,
Yigal Levin, 04/20/2004
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