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- From: furuli AT online.no
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL)
- Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:43:36 +0100
Dave Washburn wrote:
Would you mind tossing out a few of those several hundred examples so we can
discuss them?
On Saturday 13 March 2004 11:07, furuli AT online.no wrote:
Dear Dave,> Rolf
I have a list of several hundred examples of WAYYIQTOLs whose actions
occur simultaneously, even many examples where two WAYYIQTOLs have
the same subject. So it is true that the WAYYIQTOL advances R-time
in the majority (more than half) of the cases, but this is no
*semantic* characteristic of the form.
Best regards
Dear Dave,
Below are twenty-five passages of a list of 330 where there is no new
R-time when one WAYYIQTOL follows another, or when two or three
follow one WAYYIQTOL. Numbers 3), 5), 8), 9), 10), 11), 15), 18), and
24) have two WAYYIQTOLs; numbers 1), 2), 4), 6), 7), 12), 14), 16),
17), 22), and 25) have three WAYYIQTOLs, and numbers 20) and 21) have
four WAYYIQTOLs.
I have given different kinds of examples from my material. Some of
the examples are common expressions, such as 1), others are
collocations, such as 4), others express the same thing in different
words, such as 8), and others express actions that are naturally
associated with one another, such as 15). The twenty-five examples
(and the 305 others) represent a test that will answer the question:
"Is a new R-time a *semantic* part of the WAYYIQTOL form, or is the
fact that the WAYYIQTOL so often represents a new R-time only
conversational pragmatic implicature?" The answer should be obvious!
1) 1Sam. 1:17 Eli answered and said
2) 2 Ki 18:28 And he called out in a loud voice and
spoke and said
3) 1Chr. 29:22 And they ate and drank before YHWH
4) Ruth 3:7 And Boaz ate and drank and
was in good spirits
5) 2 Sam 3:32 And the king raised his voice and wept
6) 2 Sam 1:12 And they vailed, and wept and fasted
until the evening
7) Ex 34:8 w And Moses hurried and bowed down to
the earth and prostrated himself
8) Numb 22:31 And YHWH uncovered the eyes of
Balaam, and he saw..
9) 1Sam. 4:2 Israel was defeated before the
Philistines, who went striking down..
10) 1 Sam 5:6 He brought devastation upon them and
afflicted them with tumors
11) 1Sam. 17:50 he struck down the Philistine and killed him.
12) 1Sam. 14:48 He fought valiantly and defeated the
Amalekites, delivering Israel
13) 1 Sam 6:6 did they not send the Israelites out
so they could go on their way?
14) 1 Sam 7:10 YHWH thundered with loud noise
against the Philistines and threw them into such a
panic that they were defeated before the Israelites.
15) 1Sam. 8:8 they left me and served other gods
16) 1Sam. 19:12 and he fled and escaped
17) 1Sam. 15:12 He then turned around, went across,
and descended to Gilgal
18) 1 Sam 28:8 Saul disguised himself and clothed himself
19) 2 Sam 11.18 Joab sent and told
20) 2 Sam 22:8 The earth trembled and quaked
21) 1 Kings 20:33 The men took it as an omen and were
quick to pick up his word
22) 2 Ki 7:7 fled and abandoned their
tents the fled for their lives
23) 2Chr. 1:17 They brought up and exported from Egypt
24) 1Sam. 7:2 It was a long time, twenty years in
all, that the ark remained at K. J.
25) 1Sam. 8:3 They turned after unjust profit,
accepted bribes and perverted justice
Best regards
Rolf
Rolf Furuli
University of Oslo
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[b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL),
B. M. Rocine, 03/12/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL), Peter Kirk, 03/12/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL),
furuli, 03/12/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL),
B. M. Rocine, 03/12/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL),
furuli, 03/13/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL), Peter Kirk, 03/13/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL),
B. M. Rocine, 03/13/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL),
Dave Washburn, 03/13/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL),
furuli, 03/13/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL), Dave Washburn, 03/13/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL), furuli, 03/14/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL), Peter Kirk, 03/14/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL), furuli, 03/14/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL), Charles David Isbell, 03/14/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL), furuli, 03/14/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL), Peter Kirk, 03/14/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL), CS Bartholomew, 03/14/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL), Peter Kirk, 03/15/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL), Ken Penner, 03/19/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL), Sameer Yadav, 03/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL), Dave Washburn, 03/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL),
furuli, 03/13/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL),
Dave Washburn, 03/13/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL),
furuli, 03/13/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL),
B. M. Rocine, 03/12/2004
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