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- From: "David Gray" <david_gray AT sil.org>
- To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27
- Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:40:45 +0100
To Liz, Clay,
We could express it in the passive, keeping the Hebrew form, and I suppose
it would keep the problem as it is. The original audience would presumably
have understood who the agent was implied to be, so it makes sense to me to
make it clear. Personally I would go for the wrath of the Moabite people
against the Israelites as the most likely reading.
David Gray
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[mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Liz Fried
Sent: 02 July 2003 19:25
To: Biblical Hebrew
Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27
Clay wrote:
>
> Liz brought up the issue of agency for qetseph. David, do you need to make
> agency explicit in your target language or can you leave it ambiguous? If
> you are required to make it explicit then it becomes a
> probability issue. If
> we were translating Euripides, then Agamemnon offering up his daughter
> Iphigenia to Artemis in exchange for fair winds to sail off to Troy would
> not cause any problems but as Yigal has pointed out this isn't a probable
> solution in 2Kings.
>
> Liz no doubt will disagree with this assessment.
Correctomundo!
Liz can you give us other
> examples where pagan deities are shown in the OT as responding
> favorably to
> human sacrifice or any other kind of sacrifice?
>
> This isn't a rhetorical question, I really want to know.
Well..., I don't think it's relevant really.....
Just cuz one episode sneaks in, that doesn't mean there'll be more.
Uh, how about Exodus 7:11,22; 8:7???
>
> greetings, Clay
Best,
Liz
>
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[b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
David Gray, 07/01/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
Yigal Levin, 07/01/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27, Jonathan D. Safren, 07/01/2003
- [b-hebrew] Xatserim, Yigal Levin, 07/01/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27, Dave Washburn, 07/01/2003
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RE: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
David Gray, 07/02/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
c stirling bartholomew, 07/02/2003
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RE: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
Liz Fried, 07/02/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27, Dave Washburn, 07/02/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27, Peter Kirk, 07/02/2003
- RE: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27, David Gray, 07/03/2003
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RE: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
Liz Fried, 07/02/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
c stirling bartholomew, 07/02/2003
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- FW: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27, David Gray, 07/01/2003
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Re: FW: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
Jim West, 07/01/2003
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Re: FW: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
Peter Kirk, 07/01/2003
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Re: FW: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
Dave Washburn, 07/01/2003
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Re: FW: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
Jonathan D. Safren, 07/01/2003
- Re: FW: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27, Kirk Lowery, 07/02/2003
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Re: FW: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
Jonathan D. Safren, 07/01/2003
- RE: FW: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27, David Gray, 07/02/2003
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Re: FW: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
Dave Washburn, 07/01/2003
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Re: FW: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
Peter Kirk, 07/01/2003
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Re: FW: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
Jim West, 07/01/2003
- Re: FW: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27, Peter Kirk, 07/01/2003
- Re: FW: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27, Kirk Lowery, 07/01/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] qetseph in 2Ki 3:27,
Yigal Levin, 07/01/2003
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