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- From: "Ian Hutchesson" <mc2499 AT mclink.it>
- To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.metalab.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: raqia encore
- Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 02:31:45 +0200
>Ian, I remember you saying something recently about the etymological
>fallacy. That is the fallacy that just because two words (in the same or
>in cognate languages) have the same etymology, there is a relation
>between their meaning. That fallacy potentially applies here.
The situations are not comparable. I showed what
was wrong in the specific case. The similarities
only worked in isolation and not with the
diachronic changes observed.
The relationship between Tiamat and tehom is
systematic in that the differences between them
can be seen on a language-wide scale. he in
Hebrew is null in Akkadian. Vocalic waw seems
consistently an /a/ in Akkadian. Thematic
feminine taw is lost in the simple form of the
feminine noun in Hebrew. How would you say
"his deep" in Hebrew? thwmtw perhaps?
>Linguists
>may not dispute that tehom and tiamat are etymologically related.
I didn't say "etymologically related". I said that
they are cognates, ie they come from the same
source (just as "caput" and "head" do).
>That
>does not imply that there is any relation between their meanings or
>referents, especially in two quite remote languages with (as far as we
>can tell) many centuries of time difference. I accept that they may be
>related in meaning or referent. But a common etymology and a similar
>form does not prove that.
As they are plainly cognates, the important question
should be what is the relationship between their
meanings? We do this by looking at the way the terms
are used.
Ian
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RE: raqia encore
, (continued)
- RE: raqia encore, Peter Kirk, 07/24/2002
- RE: raqia encore, Dave Washburn, 07/24/2002
- RE: raqia encore, Peter Kirk, 07/24/2002
- RE: raqia encore, Dave Washburn, 07/24/2002
- Re: raqia encore, Ian Hutchesson, 07/24/2002
- Re: raqia encore, Dave Washburn, 07/24/2002
- Re: raqia encore, Ian Hutchesson, 07/27/2002
- Re: raqia encore, Dave Washburn, 07/27/2002
- Re: raqia encore, Ian Hutchesson, 07/27/2002
- RE: raqia encore, Peter Kirk, 07/27/2002
- Re: raqia encore, Ian Hutchesson, 07/27/2002
- Re: raqia encore, Rolf Furuli, 07/28/2002
- RE: raqia encore, Peter Kirk, 07/28/2002
- RE: raqia encore, Peter Kirk, 07/28/2002
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