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- From: "Peter Kirk" <Peter_Kirk AT sil.org>
- To: "Bryan Rocine" <brocine AT earthlink.net>, "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: Gen 1:1, Rashi
- Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:02:32 -0300
Dear Bryan,
OK, maybe not so rare. But your analysis is a quite different one, nothing
like Rashi's which had verses 1-2 as clauses dependent on verse 3 as a main
verb. But you are taking verse 1 as an independent sentence. In fact what
you come up with is not very different from the "traditional" understanding
by which I mean "In the beginning God created...", especially since you are
making your regular change of qatal forms to "was a doer".
But how are you actually parsing this sentence? Do you see BARA) as a verb
or as a noun? I don't think it can really be both at the same time, though I
could be persuaded if you can show me other examples of any form acting at
the same time as both a noun at the end of a construct chain and as a finite
verb! (Even in any other language!) I accept that it might be possible to
supply "is" to an otherwise verbless clause, and I suppose that you could
argue that something like that must happen in Isaiah 6:1 (see my separate
posting) if you want to keep the WAYYIQTOL as the start of a new sentence.
But that really does seem forced, much more so than the traditional
intrepretation.
Peter Kirk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Rocine" <brocine AT earthlink.net>
To: "Peter Kirk" <Peter_Kirk AT sil.org>; "Biblical Hebrew"
<b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Gen 1:1, Rashi
> Hi Peter,
>
> Maybe not so rare. Maybe just an understanding of the qatal
> form and qatal clauses that is not mainstream thinking
> nowadays. See my note to Liz. I am not sure what you mean
> by saying that vayyo'mer is not sentence initial. I would
> take the qatal clause as an independent sentence, like a
> noun clause. I would express the notions of the Gen 1
> clauses as follows:
>
> a. It was in the beginning that God was Creator of the
> heavens and the earth.
>
> b. But the earth had become tohu and bohu.
>
> c. At the time, darkness was on the surface of the deep.
>
> d. At the time, the Spirit of Elohim was hovering above the
> surface of the waters.
>
> e. Then God said...
>
> you wrote:
> > Maybe I was misled by Liz interpreting Rashi this way. So
> Rashi's
> > interpretation depends on a very rare grammatical
> construction rather than a
> > textual emendation, plus the even rarer
> non-sentence-initial WAYYIQTOL in
> > verse 3.
> >
> > Peter Kirk
>
>
> Shalom,
> Bryan
>
>
> B. M. Rocine
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Gen 1:1, Rashi,
Bryan Rocine, 09/04/2000
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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RE: Gen 1:1, Rashi,
Liz Fried, 09/04/2000
- Re: Gen 1:1, Rashi, Bryan Rocine, 09/05/2000
- Re: Gen 1:1, Rashi, Peter Kirk, 09/05/2000
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Re: Gen 1:1, Rashi,
Bryan Rocine, 09/05/2000
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Re: Gen 1:1, Rashi,
Peter Kirk, 09/07/2000
- Re: Gen 1:1, Rashi, Bryan Rocine, 09/10/2000
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- Re: Gen 1:1, Rashi, Peter Kirk, 09/11/2000
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Re: Gen 1:1, Rashi,
Peter Kirk, 09/07/2000
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