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- From: John Ronning <ronning AT ilink.nis.za>
- To: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: Bible translations
- Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 09:58:30 +0200
Rolf Furuli wrote re. Col 1:15 (Christ as firstborn of all creation)
>
> I use 16 pages in my book to a discussion of Colossians 1(my viewpoint is
> all the time what is linguistically possible and preferable). Conclusion: A
> rendition of pas as "all other" is perfectly legitimate and "other" is no
> addition (See BDB � 480). And particularly if prototokws in 1:15 is taken
> in the only meaning it has in the Bible, "the one who is born first", a
> rendition which many translations are at pains to avoid, the word "other"
> can also be conceptually defended.
"Firstborn" does not have just one meaning in the Bible. In Ps 89:27/28 God
speaks of
making David a firstborn w.r.t. the kings of the earth, so firstborn has to
do with
his status or office, certainly not any process of birth. According to 2 Sam
7 and
Psalm 2, God's anointed king becomes his "son" (i.e. is "begotten") when he
assumes
the throne; as applied to the Lord by the apostles, Jesus is "begotten" at the
resurrection (his raising up to the throne; Acts 13:33). Again, no
implication of a
creation involved.
Regards,
John
-
Re: Bible translations
, (continued)
- Re: Bible translations, mjoseph, 03/11/1999
- Re[2]: Bible translations, peter_kirk, 03/11/1999
- Re[2]: Bible translations, Rolf Furuli, 03/12/1999
- Re: Bible translations, Rolf Furuli, 03/12/1999
- Bible Translations, Andrew C Smith, 03/12/1999
- Re: Bible Translations, Jonathan D. Safren, 03/12/1999
- Re: Bible Translations, Jonathan Robie, 03/12/1999
- Re[3]: Bible translations, peter_kirk, 03/12/1999
- Re: Bible Translations, Irene Riegner, 03/12/1999
- Re: Bible Translations, GregStffrd, 03/12/1999
- Re: Bible translations, John Ronning, 03/20/1999
- Re: Bible translations, Rolf Furuli, 03/20/1999
- Re: Bible translations, John Ronning, 03/20/1999
- Re: Bible translations, Will Wagers, 03/20/1999
- Re[2]: Bible translations, peter_kirk, 03/22/1999
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