Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Eric Weiss" <eweiss AT gte.net>]

Well ... perhaps if I ever finish your Hebrew grammar I will not make such 
mistakes <grin!>

Thanks for your response, and thanks for your earlier one re: $ekon yhvh 
and the "presence" of the Lord.

So I guess using I Kings 8:11 of the priests "being unable to stand up" is 
another example of poor Charismatic exegesis, i.e., when they compare this 
to the soldiers falling down in John 18:6 when they come to arrest Jesus 
and use it to develop a doctrine of being "slain in the Spirit."

Kind of like the misinterpretion of Isaiah 10:27 to preach that "the 
anointing breaks the yoke" (i.e., the Anointing of the Holy Spirit breaks 
bondages of demons and bad habits and lack of freedom in one's life and 
worship, etc.)....

On 03/04/99, ""Bryan Rocine" <596547 AT ican.net>" wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> 
> you wrote:
> 
> > (I Kings 8:11) and the priests couldn't stand upright and/or when the
> place 
> > the disciples were praying in was shaken (Acts 4:31) -- i.e., a physical
> > manifestation by or of God.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > 
> > "My best guess is still to call it the "glory" of the Lord -- since that
> is 
> > what filled the Temple so the priests couldn't stand."
> 
> I know that 1 Ki 8:11 (as well as 2Ch 5:14) is commonly interpreted as
> meaning that the priests "couldn't stand upright" or fell down because of
> the glory of the Lord.  I disagree.  The verb in both the above verses is
> `md which has the meaning "take one's stand" and often has the sense
> "remain" as opposed to qwm "stand up."  If instead, the text had read velo'
> yoklu laqum, I would agree that the priest became unable to stand up.  As
> it is, however, I read that they were not only still able to stand up, but
> they walked or ran!  They *left* the Temple because they were not able to
> endure the glory of the Lord.  2Ch 7:2 confirms that the priests had left
> the Temple rather than fallen down, and state that the priest were still
> not able to return because of the glory of the Lord. 
> 
> The Hebrew expression lo' yakol la`amod is used a handful of times to mean
> "retreat," e.g. Jos 7:12, Jdg 2:14 or yakol `amod to mean "endure," e.g.
> Exo 18:23, 1Sa 6:20.
> 
> Shalom,
> Bryan
> 
> 
> 
> B. M. Rocine
> Associate Pastor
> Living Word Church
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