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- From: Paul Zellmer <zellmer AT cag.pworld.net.ph>
- To: B-hebrew list <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Cc: Kirk Lowery <KirkLowery AT xc.org>
- Subject: Re: 1 Kgs 1:40
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 04:51:41 +0800
Kirk Lowery wrote:
> Friends,
>
> The syntax of 1 Kgs 1:40b can be read a couple of different ways. Without
> prejudicing this audience with my ideas ;-) , how would you understand
> where the
> clause boundaries are, and how we are to understand the participles here
> (functioning as nouns, verbally, or perhaps even adverbially)?
>
> 1:40a way.a`:alw. kfl-hf`fm 'ax:arfyw -- no problems here V + Su + Adv
> phrase
> (direction)
>
> 1:40b w:hf`fm m:xal.:liym b.ax:aliliym w.&:m"xiym &im:xfh g:dowlfh -- ?????
>
> 1:40c wat.ib.fqa` hf'frec b.:qowlfm -- this is also no problem: V + Su + Adv
> phrase (instrumental)
>
Kirk,
The source of the problem here, of course, appears to be the repetition of
Hf`fM.
Maybe that's why some versions of the LXX left it out.
I'm not sure I understand you question about clause boundaries. If we are
looking at
1:40b like you say, there seem to be two clauses, both with the subject
Hf`fM. IOW, a
compound "verb", although the verbs in this case are participles. Perhaps
you need to
influence us a little by explaining the possibilities as you see them.
I see both participles {M:XaL.:LiYM and [W.]&M"XiYM}acting as verbs. Were
they acting
adjectivally, I have difficulty resolving the conjunction on the second
Hf`fM. That
conjunction tends to force a clause break between 1:40a and 1:40b. So I take
this
part of the verse as two clauses: Su + Ptcp(V) + Adv phrase(instrumental)
and (Su) +
Ptcp(V) + Obj + Adj. The second Hf`fM distinguishes the pipers and rejoicers
from
Solomon.
My 2ยข worth (and that's highway robbery!)
Paul
--
Paul and Dee Zellmer, Jimmy Guingab, Geoffrey Beltran
Ibanag Translation Project
Cabagan, Philippines
zellmer AT faith.edu.ph
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1 Kgs 1:40,
Kirk Lowery, 11/16/1998
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: 1 Kgs 1:40, Paul Zellmer, 11/16/1998
- Re: 1 Kgs 1:40, Ben Crick, 11/16/1998
- Re: 1 Kgs 1:40, Kirk Lowery, 11/17/1998
- Re: 1 Kgs 1:40, Bryan Rocine, 11/17/1998
- Re: 1 Kgs 1:40, Reinhard G.Lehmann, 11/18/1998
- Re: 1 Kgs 1:40, Lee R. Martin, 11/18/1998
- Re[2]: 1 Kgs 1:40, Peter_Kirk, 11/19/1998
- Re: 1 Kgs 1:40, Lee R. Martin, 11/19/1998
- Re: 1 Kgs 1:40, Bryan Rocine, 11/19/1998
- Re: 1 Kgs 1:40, Lee R. Martin, 11/20/1998
- Re: 1 Kgs 1:40, Lee R. Martin, 11/20/1998
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