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  • From: "Downes, Stephen" <Stephen.Downes AT nrc-cnrc.gc.ca>
  • To: "'cc-education AT lists.ibiblio.org'" <cc-education AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: RE: [cc-education] A Voice in The Void.
  • Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:08:59 -0500

The comment about OpenOffice is interesting.

As you may know, MS is signing deals with various content providers for
exclusive access as subscription-based resources into Office products (think
of it as 'son-of-Smart-Tags'). This method of circumventing normal
information distribution channels effectively gives MS control over content
distribution (terms of which would be enforced by the MS Rights Management
Server).

It is worthwhile to think of setting up an open system whereby Open Office
users are able to tap directly into (CC and equivalent licensed) RSS feeds
distributing free content. For example, a direct connection between
OpenOffice and Wikipedia would be most useful.

It is going to be important for those who promote open access to think of
the content infrastructure as an interconnected network extending from the
author directly through to the user's desktop applications. Anything less,
and it will be controlled and monopolized.

-- Stephen

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ms. Heather Ford [mailto:hford AT stanford.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:39 AM
> To: development of an education license or license option for Creative
> Commons
> Subject: Re: [cc-education] A Voice in The Void.
>
>
> Thanks for clearing that up, David. I couldn't agree with you
> more about
> being more collaborative about the process - and I'd love to
> work with
> people on doing something really practical to advance
> creative commons
> licensing. In fact, I'm going to be presenting a paper on the
> relevance of
> creative commons for the African public domain in Cape Town
> in January at
> the Idlelo conference (http://idlelo.uwc.ac.za) and one of
> the main things
> that I'll be stressing is that creative commons is as much about the
> philosophy of people working together collaboratively as a
> community with
> shared goals, as it is about providing a practical alternative to
> copyright. We often forget about this when we talk about open
> content -
> but I believe that it's an important part of opening up the
> 'workings',
> the nuts and bolts and the 'source code' of the content-generation
> process.
>
> I was actually thinking of building a collaboration space for
> educators
> who are interested in using Creative Commons licenses in building
> curricula collaboratively. It would have the facility to link people
> together across particular themes (kind of like a Friendster for
> curriculum developers) and really develop our ability to
> collectively wade
> through and filter the mass of open content that is being
> made available
> into practical, current information bytes using blogs, wikis and
> collaborative project management similar to that used by
> projects such as
> www.openoffice.org . You'll notice that openoffice.org has
> opened up their
> *entire* development process - including marketing - to the
> international
> public, and does a similar thing to what you suggested by
> having contact
> nodes in each region responsible for marketing and press liaison.
>
> I'd be very willing to set up a collaborative space for cc education
> people to start developing these materials - if it is
> generally agreed
> that it's a good idea and if people are willing to comment on how it
> should look.
>
> Best,
>
> Heather.
>
>
>
> 4 PM 12/2/2003, you wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 05:34, Heather Ford wrote:
> > >
> > >Well, yes, I understand what you are saying,
> >
> > <heather> Sorry, but I don't understand? What can you do
> better than
> most?
> >
> > >and I think that I could do
> > >it better than most, but how the project is presented has
> a lot to do
> > >with how it is accepted.
> > >So I thought that pooling resources/ideas, and then
> jointly working out
> > >an effective approach would garner the greater acceptance
> level in the
> > >marketplace.
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >David.
> > >
> Hello Heather,
>
> At one stage I was one of the more prominant promotors in Australia.
>
> As to the second part, 'pooling of ideas', etc.,
> (1) I am a firm believer in the open source community-based
> way of doing
> things;
> (2) I don't have the arrogance to make decisions on a
> situation where I
> am not the only personality involved.
> Regards,
>
> David.
>
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