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  • From: Nathan Yergler <nathan AT creativecommons.org>
  • To: amit sethi <amit.pureenergy AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [cc-devel] Gsoc idea :liblicence for URLs and plugin for embedding licences in media files in Django
  • Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:49:44 -0700

I would guess IronPython would probably be ill advised unless there's
already examples of how to do it. Your experience doesn't disqualify
you in any way, it was just an unanswered question I had.

Nathan


On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:26 AM, amit sethi <amit.pureenergy AT gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi ,you have asked me about my Mono/C# experience . I must say it is not
> much. I have usually used C++ or python.Also there could be an option of
> using IronPython for this project. But I haven't as yet seen anyone
> recommending using IronPython for any project . I would check if it is a
> good option . Also I am open to learning for this project.I think there
> could be an initial lag but I will try my best to achieve my targets.
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Nathan Yergler <nathan AT creativecommons.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Amit; I submitted a comment on the SOC web app.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:15 AM, amit sethi <amit.pureenergy AT gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Also at the moment I have kept the deliverables to a minimum . But I
>> > think I
>> > can achieve more . Their are also many other possibilities for example :
>> > In the exif metadata their is a space for user comment and i have heard
>> > that
>> > some photographers  tend to keep copyright information their . We could
>> > check if their is something related to copyright and automatically add
>> > to
>> > License Information . There are many other use cases that can be
>> > brainstormed .
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:41 AM, amit sethi <amit.pureenergy AT gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi , I have submitted a first draft proposal . Looking forward to your
>> >> comments.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Nathan Yergler
>> >> <nathan AT creativecommons.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:06 AM, amit sethi
>> >>> <amit.pureenergy AT gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>use existing recommendations like ccREL/RDFa to specify and detect
>> >>> >>> the
>> >>> >>>license information.  If you're looking at an image on its own, XMP
>> >>> >>>already allows you to specify the license in an object so using
>> >>> >>> that
>> >>> >>>existing standard is my preference.
>> >>> > Actually i now think this is a better idea at least for media.
>> >>> > Sorry
>> >>> > for
>> >>> > being ill informed .Also i hope i was not condescending . I was just
>> >>> > excited
>> >>> > about the idea .  >>there are use cases that an
>> >>> >>>HTTP header would address that existing approaches don't, we can
>> >>> >>> talk
>> >>> >>>about it (although I'll warn you that I'm going to be super
>> >>> >>>skeptical).
>> >>> > well i think this could be a great help to bloggers.This way not
>> >>> > only
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > media content but the textual content they produce can also be
>> >>> > licensed
>> >>> > under creative common .
>> >>>
>> >>> Are you saying that the HTTP header would let bloggers license their
>> >>> text as well as their images, video, etc?  RDFa lets us do this
>> >>> already.  I admit it's very possible I'm missing something as I'm a
>> >>> little sleep deprived at the moment :).
>> >>>
>> >>> >>>An F-Spot licensing plugin generally (that presumably used
>> >>> >>>liblicense?) would be fantastic and a perfect SoC project.
>> >>> > That is great although  i wish to take a day or two to research this
>> >>> > project
>> >>> > before submitting a proposal .I am interested on how F-spot handles
>> >>> > metadata
>> >>> > .
>> >>>
>> >>> Great.
>> >>>
>> >>> > Especially if do add such a plugin how F-spot is going to handle
>> >>> > writing it
>> >>> > to flickr when it uploads such an image to flickr etc ... It can
>> >>> > import
>> >>> > xmp
>> >>> > tags on an image.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think the following are interesting features for an F-Spot plugin:
>> >>>
>> >>> * select a license for your photos, individually as well as a default
>> >>> * allow filtering the view by photos of a particular license (or
>> >>> property, ie, "allows remixing")
>> >>> * when uploading to Flickr, use the Flickr API to set the
>> >>> corresponding license (this may be a patch to the existing Flickr
>> >>> plugin)
>> >>> * if possible, do the same for Picasa (no idea if their API supports
>> >>> that)
>> >>> * embed XMP on export, possibly controlled by a flag (ie, "export with
>> >>> XMP")
>> >>>
>> >>> > If you could recommend some reading for research for the project
>> >>> > proposal it
>> >>> > would be .
>> >>>
>> >>> I think the places to start are with F-Spot and Mono documentation.
>> >>> You could conceivably leave all the XMP stuff to liblicense, but we'll
>> >>> need to make Mono/C# bindings.  I think this would be a great project
>> >>> and fill a big gap in the CC+FLOSS desktop tools story.  Looking
>> >>> forward to your proposal.
>> >>>
>> >>> Nathan
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> >>>Yeah, I'm not 100% certain about how oembed works... I think it
>> >>> >>>typically gets consumed and transformed into HTML for embedding.
>> >>> >>>Better (license aware) oembed consumers would be useful.  Of course
>> >>> > yes , you are right again it does get consumed. I think XMP is again
>> >>> > a
>> >>> > better solution .
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> A-M-I-T S|S
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > A-M-I-T S|S
>> >
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