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  • From: Nathan Yergler <nathan AT creativecommons.org>
  • To: amit sethi <amit.pureenergy AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [cc-devel] Gsoc idea :liblicence for URLs and plugin for embedding licences in media files in Django
  • Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:53:18 -0500

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:06 AM, amit sethi <amit.pureenergy AT gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>use existing recommendations like ccREL/RDFa to specify and detect the
>>>license information.  If you're looking at an image on its own, XMP
>>>already allows you to specify the license in an object so using that
>>>existing standard is my preference.
> Actually i now think this is a better idea at least for media.  Sorry for
> being ill informed .Also i hope i was not condescending . I was just excited
> about the idea .  >>there are use cases that an
>>>HTTP header would address that existing approaches don't, we can talk
>>>about it (although I'll warn you that I'm going to be super
>>>skeptical).
> well i think this could be a great help to bloggers.This way not only the
> media content but the textual content they produce can also be licensed
> under creative common .

Are you saying that the HTTP header would let bloggers license their
text as well as their images, video, etc? RDFa lets us do this
already. I admit it's very possible I'm missing something as I'm a
little sleep deprived at the moment :).

>>>An F-Spot licensing plugin generally (that presumably used
>>>liblicense?) would be fantastic and a perfect SoC project.
> That is great although  i wish to take a day or two to research this project
> before submitting a proposal .I am interested on how F-spot handles metadata
> .

Great.

> Especially if do add such a plugin how F-spot is going to handle writing it
> to flickr when it uploads such an image to flickr etc ... It can import xmp
> tags on an image.

I think the following are interesting features for an F-Spot plugin:

* select a license for your photos, individually as well as a default
* allow filtering the view by photos of a particular license (or
property, ie, "allows remixing")
* when uploading to Flickr, use the Flickr API to set the
corresponding license (this may be a patch to the existing Flickr
plugin)
* if possible, do the same for Picasa (no idea if their API supports that)
* embed XMP on export, possibly controlled by a flag (ie, "export with XMP")

> If you could recommend some reading for research for the project proposal it
> would be .

I think the places to start are with F-Spot and Mono documentation.
You could conceivably leave all the XMP stuff to liblicense, but we'll
need to make Mono/C# bindings. I think this would be a great project
and fill a big gap in the CC+FLOSS desktop tools story. Looking
forward to your proposal.

Nathan


>>>Yeah, I'm not 100% certain about how oembed works... I think it
>>>typically gets consumed and transformed into HTML for embedding.
>>>Better (license aware) oembed consumers would be useful.  Of course
> yes , you are right again it does get consumed. I think XMP is again a
> better solution .
>
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