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- From: Wolfgang Hoschek <whoschek AT lbl.gov>
- To: Elliotte Harold <elharo AT metalab.unc.edu>
- Cc: xom-interest <xom-interest AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink
- Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:17:13 -0800
Wolfgang Hoschek wrote:
How would an external XPath impl (without access to XOM's private backdoors) create an XPathNamespaceNode? I guess it can't, which suggests the design is rather limited.
It can be done but it's a hack. Just create a document with the appropriate namespaces, and then use an XPath expression like //namespace::node() to grab them. This is how the unit tests for this functionality are written.
"Just"? If one develops an external XPath impl one has to parse and run another XPath query over another XPath impl to get hold of a namespace node? Feels like "security through obscurity", or perhaps like throwing sticks between the legs of other folks. By all means, at least you could make the constructor protected so one could subclass it in an internal private subclass, to be able to use the constructor.
If someone discovers a compelling use case for creating these, I can expose the constructor; but if not I'd rather keep the constructors package protected. The smaller I can keep the public API the better. YAGNI.
One clear use case is to enable other XPath impls to return a namespace node.
I'm also afraid that if I expose public constructors, programmers will expect to be able to add these nodes to elements. I'm already a little worried that people (JDOM programmers especially) will be looking for the public constructors rather than looking for the write methods in Element.
Yes, to support 0.01% of use cases, we pay the prize of having an ugly conceptual misfit, no matter how we juggle it.
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Elliotte Harold, 01/23/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Bradley S. Huffman, 01/23/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Elliotte Harold, 01/23/2005
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RE: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Michael Kay, 01/23/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Elliotte Harold, 01/24/2005
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RE: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Michael Kay, 01/24/2005
- Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink, John Cowan, 01/24/2005
- Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink, Elliotte Harold, 01/24/2005
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RE: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Michael Kay, 01/24/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Elliotte Harold, 01/24/2005
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RE: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Michael Kay, 01/23/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Elliotte Harold, 01/23/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Bradley S. Huffman, 01/23/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Wolfgang Hoschek, 01/23/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Elliotte Harold, 01/31/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Wolfgang Hoschek, 01/31/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Elliotte Harold, 01/31/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Steve Loughran, 01/31/2005
- Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink, Elliotte Harold, 01/31/2005
- Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink, Wolfgang Hoschek, 01/31/2005
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RE: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Michael Kay, 01/31/2005
- Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink, Elliotte Harold, 01/31/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Steve Loughran, 01/31/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Elliotte Harold, 01/31/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Wolfgang Hoschek, 01/31/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Elliotte Harold, 01/31/2005
- Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink, Bradley S. Huffman, 01/23/2005
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Re: [XOM-interest] XPath Namespace Nodes rethink,
Elliotte Harold, 01/23/2005
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