UNC Linux Users Group

[Jesse Aaron Safir <jesse_safir AT unc.edu>]

Cristobal,

I have VMWare Workstation 5.0.  I've run it on Windows and run Linux
inside.  I could also run it on Linux and run Windows inside.  The problem
with virtualization like this though is that it's not always easy to share
files between the host and guest OSes.  There's also the FREE version of
WMWare Virtual Server, which used to be called GSX.  I'm running that on a
RHEL4 server now and it works about the same as VMWare Workstation.

I'd love to be able to run Windows apps under Linux without having to run
a Windows OS inside a VM.  I can try this with WINE if you can point me in
the right direction.

> On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 01:45:38PM -0400, Jesse Aaron Safir wrote:
> >
> > Brian,
> >
> > What's the difference between CrossOver Office and WINE?
>
> CrossOver is a product of Codeweavers that has a proprietary/restrictive
> license, BUT does give you a very nice, relatively usable product compared 
> to
> the Open Source WINE project.
>
> If you want the ability to run misc MS/windows apps on your linux machine,
> what you really want is VMware workstation. That will allow you to run the
> entire MS operating system inside a virtual machine on your Linux box. Don't
> attempt this unless you have > 10GB of HD space you can throw at it and > 
> 1GB
> of RAM on the machine in question. Much less than that and you won't be very
> happy with the performance of your system.
>
> Please do note that VMware _also_ has a proprietary/closed/restrictive
> license and will "taint" your kernel. If you are running RHEL and getting
> support from them, they won't help you with whatever machine you stick it
> on (so I hear, anyway). Official support agreements and closed/open 
> arguments
> aside, VMware workstation is a decent product.
>
> Keep your eye on Xen, though. Xen is coming along fast and will, with the
> right VT CPU hardware, allow for the hosting of unmodified guest operating
> systems (read: windows).
>
> -CMP
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > I will throw in a plug for CrossOver office. It is a very cool product
> > > if you have to have it. For nothing else, it's fun to watch the MS
> > > Office install do a "reboot" inside a window while the machine keeps
> > > right on humming along.
> > >
> > > Cristobal Palmer wrote:
> > > > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 05:48:26PM -0400, Jesse Aaron Safir wrote:
> > > >> Greg et al,
> > > >>
> > > >> How about WINE?  It appears that WINE is included in SuSE Linux 10.1 
> > > >> so
> > > >> perhaps we don't need CrossOver Office if it's nearly the same 
> > > >> thing?  Do
> > > >> you know of any good documents or guides that are about getting 
> > > >> started
> > > >> with WINE?
> > > >
> > > > While there is documentation on how to get started with wine, it is 
> > > > not for
> > > > the timid or weak, and it is hardly a complete solution, as it is 
> > > > always
> > > > going to be behind the curve and there will always be 
> > > > plugins/extensions for
> > > > MS Office that aren't compatible.
> > > >
> > > > What's wrong with OpenOffice.org? What do you need to do with MS 
> > > > Office that
> > > > you can't do with a Linux-native app? If you _must_ use MS Office, 
> > > > you will
> > > > currently need to purchase Codeweaver's product or perhaps simply run 
> > > > an MS
> > > > OS under VMware or do a dual boot or...
> > > >
> > > > But again... what are you trying to do that there's not an Open 
> > > > Source app?
> > > >
> > > > -CMP
> > > >
> > > >>> http://en.opensuse.org/Using_Xgl_on_SUSE_Linux
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Steps your through the process. It is unclear to me if the i830 is
> > > >>> supported. Best thing to do is try. The i845 is supported.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> gregory j pryzby
> > > >>> technology specialist
> > > >>> office: 703-880-4979
> > > >>> gpryzby AT novell.com
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Novell, Inc.
> > > >>> Software for the Open Enterprise
> > > >>> http://www.novell.com/open
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>> On Wed, May 17, 2006 at  7:49 PM, in message
> > > >>> <Pine.WNT.4.63.0605171936010.2100@vgfqfwnfe40>, Jesse Aaron Safir
> > > >>> <jesse_safir AT unc.edu> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Okay so I have SuSE Linux 10.1 from OpenSuSE.org but how do I get
> > > >>> this Xgl
> > > >>>> stuff working?  Will my ThinkPad R31 support it?  I've got an Intel
> > > >>> i830
> > > >>>> graphics card and it does say "Activate 3D Acceleration".  What 
> > > >>>> else
> > > >>> do I
> > > >>>> need to do?
> > > >>>
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