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Re: [TypicalGirls] What does everyone think about...
- From: "Raven Baker" <softgraffiti AT gmail.com>
- To: typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [TypicalGirls] What does everyone think about...
- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:58:08 -0400
I'm going to respond to several people's emails...
No 1: Someone described the current crop of bands as having got into
riot grrrl after it happened. I think that's an interesting point
likely as it pretty much sums me up. I got into a lot of the riot
grrrl bands right before they were breaking up and only caught a few
acts live (Bratmobile, Sleater-Kinney). My whole view of the movement
was nostalgic from first contact on. Over the years, I felt like I
had missed out, that the great, radical women's music scene of my
lifetime was over before I knew any better. So, it's been really
exciting to see how many women are involved in making music these
days. And there seems to be a growing trend of reissuing women's
music, punk and otherwise, which is likewise exciting and inspiring.
Related to all this is how unremarkable being a female underground
musician seems to be these days. At least, for the people I know
around my age, it doesn't seem unusual or noteworthy that a woman can
make music (and good music at that). Which is awesome, but I've also
noticed a lot less camraderie and respect at shows featuring women's
bands. In part, likely because I no longer live in the DC area, where
riot grrrl values still had a stronghold. I'm talking little things,
like people making sure short women have a space up front and perfect
strangers teaming up to shame the guy heckling the band. I was at a
Mika Miko show recently, in Baltimore, and I was absolutely shocked by
some stuff. The band was great, but the audience... one guy yelled
'show us your boobs' at the band. By the end of the set a bunch of
men had taken over the area up front, which had formerly been half
occupied by women, and essentially pushed us to the back.
I bring this up because this resurgence of women in music doesn't
necessarily bring with it a basic respect for women or an awareness of
gender issues. Which was at the forefront of riot grrrl. Along with
riot grrrl-inspired sounds I'd like to see the ideals and awareness
come back with it!
No 2: Sugar Town in Philly sounds awesome (and great name, btw)! It
looks like your site hasn't been updated in a couple years, is there
anywhere to see what you have lined up?
No 3: To whoever mentioned Teenage Teardrops, I am so with you on
that. Such a fantastic labor of love. Also, they have a Mika Miko
release coming up! If you're interested, I published an interview
with Cali Dewitt, head of Teenage Teardrops, here:
http://beatbots.com/view.php?feature=93
Peace
Raven
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Re: [TypicalGirls] What does everyone think about...
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- Re: [TypicalGirls] What does everyone think about..., Mairead Case, 09/13/2007
- Re: [TypicalGirls] What does everyone think about..., J Neo Marvin, 09/13/2007
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Re: [TypicalGirls] What does everyone think about...,
Lizzie Ehrenhalt, 09/13/2007
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Re: [TypicalGirls] What does everyone think about...,
unmannedmission, 09/13/2007
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[TypicalGirls] Riot Grrrl: genre vs. musical-political ethos,
Lizzie Ehrenhalt, 09/13/2007
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Re: [TypicalGirls] Riot Grrrl: genre vs. musical-political ethos,
Tobi Vail, 09/13/2007
- Re: [TypicalGirls] Riot Grrrl: genre vs. musical-political ethos, unmannedmission, 09/13/2007
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Re: [TypicalGirls] Riot Grrrl: genre vs. musical-political ethos,
Mike Appelstein, 09/13/2007
- Re: [TypicalGirls] Riot Grrrl: genre vs. musical-political ethos, Kelli Miller, 09/13/2007
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Re: [TypicalGirls] Riot Grrrl: genre vs. musical-political ethos,
Tobi Vail, 09/13/2007
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[TypicalGirls] Riot Grrrl: genre vs. musical-political ethos,
Lizzie Ehrenhalt, 09/13/2007
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Re: [TypicalGirls] What does everyone think about...,
unmannedmission, 09/13/2007
- Re: [TypicalGirls] What does everyone think about..., weasel walter, 09/13/2007
- Re: [TypicalGirls] What does everyone think about..., Raven Baker, 09/13/2007
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