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  • From: Dufflebunk <dufflebunk AT dufflebunk.homeip.net>
  • To: Aaron Brice <abrice2 AT cox.net>
  • Cc: Jens Laas <jens.laas AT data.slu.se>, sm-sorcery AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Sorcery]Language wars...
  • Date: 08 Oct 2002 14:28:00 -0400

Many of those loops could be written much more nicely if more than basic
bash and awk were used.

On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 03:46, Aaron Brice wrote:
> Simplicity? Have you looked at the sorcery functions, at the many
> awkward for/cut/grep loops that would be one-line perl functions?
>
> As for a smaller base system, since it requires a gig of free hard drive
> space to compile many spells, what's another 50 megs in required
> binaries? I would guess that perl and mysql are already on 95% of the
> source mage installations already anyway..
>
> Aaron
>
> On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 23:53, Jens Laas wrote:
> > (02.10.07 kl.19:52) Aaron Brice skrev följande till Sergey A Lipnevich:
> >
> > > On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 08:59, Sergey A Lipnevich wrote:
> > > > One of the things neglected about Sorcery is that it relies on the
> > > > file
> > > > system as its primary storage, a kind of database. Spell name's
> > > > primary
> >
> > > Using the file system as a kind of database in my opinion is one of
> > > sorcery's weaknesses right now. Why not use a database as a kind of
> > > database? How much faster would finding dependencies be if you could
> > > just "select from dependency_table where depends_on='mozilla'"? I think
> > > it would be great to not only switch to Perl, but to switch to Perl,
> > > MySQL, and XML.
> >
> > That would be the same day I stopped using SMGL.
> >
> > If sourcemage started using a relational database it would become just
> > another bloated, overengineered piece of crap.
> >
> > If OpenSSL stopped needing perl for building I would be happy, as ssh is
> > the only thing keeping perl on my servers.
> >
> > What attracts me to sourcemage is:
> > - Simplicity (I can easily change things to my way without reading tons of
> > scripts, code, programs in a language I dont use, etc.)
> > - Low demands. I can have a very small base system. Only crap left is
> > perl.
> > - And of course all the source dist advantages we all love.
> >
> > Dont stray from the path of simplicity! There be dragons!
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Jens
> >
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