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Subject: Discussion of Spells and Grimoire items
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- From: Robin Cook <rcook AT wyrms.net>
- To: Eric Sandall <eric AT sandall.us>
- Cc: sm-grimoire AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [SM-Grimoire] Re: split gnome ?
- Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 05:17:39 -0000
As part of trying to see if we can phase out gnome 1, I have tried
checking to see what spells depend on gnome 1 and see if there is a
gnome2 version or if it is an optional depends. Below are the spells I
found that depend on gnome in some way. Where I could I have suggested
fixes or updates to removed the gnome 1 dependencies. Others I have sent
e-mail to the authors of the ones I could find an e-mail to send it to
to see if there are any plans to port to gnome 2, but havn't received
any responses yet.
Don't know if there is a way to find out if anyone is still using these
gnome 1 spells or not. I know I am using kino and I am trying to nudge
the development team for it to port to gnome2....
audio
grip
-- gnome2 beta version in audio (grip2)
xmms
-- suggest removal of optional dependency on gnome1
chat
gaim
-- uses atk from gnome but atk not in DEPENDS
BitchX
-- optional depends on gnome-libs
gnomeicu
-- gnome 1 version has gnome 2 version gnomeicu2
xchat
-- optional gnome 1 has gtk+2 version xchat2
gabber
-- gnome 1 app
gnomemeeting
-- gnome 2 app
collab
diradmin
-- Problem depends on gnome-libs and libgnomeui. gnome-libs is gnome1
and libgnomeui is gnome2 is this a gnome2 or gnome1 app? also new
version 1.5.1 out.
devel
anjuta
-- gnome1 app - gnome 2 beta version just released
memprof
-- gnome1 app - gnome 2 version in gnome (memprof2)
Overflow
-- gnome1 app
disk
cdrdao
-- optional depends gnomemm, recommend removing until updated to
libgnomemm
gtktalog
-- gnome1 app - has new version 1.0.1, has experimental gnome20
support
lufs
-- optional depends gnome-vfs, recommend removing until updated to
gnome-vfs2
simplecdrx
-- depends on glade 1
doc
devhelp
-- 0.6.0 gnome2 version no longer depends on gnome1 libs
editors
abiword
-- supposed to be optional for gnome but has them in the depends,
gnome2 version available in gnome
ghex
-- gnome1 app - gnome2 version in gnome
gedit
-- gnome1 app - gnome2 version in gnome
gmanedit
-- gnome1 app - not been updated since sept. 2000
gaspell
-- gnome1 app - no longer suppored since the move to GNU aspell
glimmer
-- gnome1 app
ftp
gtm
-- gnome1 app
dc_gui
-- Problem depends on gnome-libs and libgnomeui, gnome-libs is gnome1
and libgnomeui is gnome2 new version 0.74 all version > 0.66 are
gnome2
puregui
-- depends on glade 1, not sure if this is still supported.
games
celestia
-- optional gnome1 app, suggest removing gnome1 option until ported
to gnome2
ggz-gnome-client
-- This will work with gnome1 or gnome2. Suggest replace gnome-core
with libgnomeui.
ggz-gtk-client
-- This will work with gtk+ or gtk+2. Suggest replace gtk+ with gtk+2
gnome-mud
-- gnome2 app
grustibus
-- gnome1 app
gnocatan
-- gnome1 app
xpenguins_applet
-- gnome1 app, there is a gnome2 version available 2.1.0
graphics
sodipodi
-- gnome2 app though depends incorrect as it depends on
libgnomeprintui20
frontline
-- gnome1 app
terraform
-- gnome1 app
http
galeon
-- gnome1 app, gnome2 version in http.
libs
soup
-- doesn't depend on gnome but libsoup is in the gnome section.
guile-gtk
-- guile-gtk now has a gtk+2 version along with the gtk+ version also
moved to http://www.nongnu.org/guile-gtk/
balsa
-- gnome1 app, gnome2 version in gnome
net
cheops-ng
-- gnome1 app
etherape
-- gnome1 app, gnome2 beta available (new version 0.9.0)
firestarter
-- gnome2 app
news
pan
-- gnome1 app, gnome2 version in gnome
printer
gnulpr
-- gnome1 app
shell-term-fm
multi-gnome-terminal
-- gnome1 app, looks like they might be trying to port to gnome2
powershell
-- gnome1 app
video
GTKsubtitler
-- gnome1 app
kino
-- gnome1 app
vlc
-- optional gnome-libs, suggest remove option gnome1 option and
remove the gtk+ option when option is functional as well as
enabling gnome2 option when funtional.
zapping
-- gnome1 app, looks like they are planning on porting to gnome2
windowmanagers
alarm-applet
-- gnome1 app
fluxbox
-- optional gnome1
pwm
-- optional gnome1 ??
sawfish
-- gnome1 app, gnome2 version in gnome
WindowMaker
-- optional gnome1
x11
xalf
-- gnome1 app, gnome2 has this function built in
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 15:46, Eric Sandall wrote:
> David Braaten said:
> >
> > I like Robin's suggestion about how to divide gnome into the apps vs libs
> > sections. I would also like to suggest that we should create a new
> > grimoire
> > called 'deprecated' and any spells that are removed from our main
> > grimoire's, which still have their source available, could go in there.
> > Spells could hang out in 'deprecated' for a while, to give people a chance
> > to argue for their survival, before such spells are completely vanquished.
> > ;)
>
> I like this idea as well. Shall we use the 'gnome' section as a test case
> then? If so, I'd like Robin to separate gnome into the sections he wants
> and then create a list of packages that he would like put in 'deprecated'.
> The only requirement for packages going into 'deprecated' is that no
> package in the standard grimoire can depend on a package in 'deprecated'.
>
> Once we figure out how to make separate grimoires (using Perforce, setting
> up the scripts on the website, etc.) via the games section split we'll
> create a 'deprecated' grimoire, unless there are valid reasons which
> override the reasoning to split.
>
> -sandalle
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[SM-Grimoire] Re: split gnome ?,
David Braaten, 06/16/2003
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Re: [SM-Grimoire] Re: split gnome ?,
Eric Sandall, 06/16/2003
- Re: [SM-Grimoire] Re: split gnome ?, Robin Cook, 06/17/2003
- Re: [SM-Grimoire] Re: split gnome ?, Robin Cook, 06/18/2003
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Re: [SM-Grimoire] Re: split gnome ?,
Robin Cook, 06/18/2003
- Re: [SM-Grimoire] Re: split gnome ?, Hamish Greig, 06/18/2003
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Re: [SM-Grimoire] Re: split gnome ?,
Arwed von Merkatz, 06/18/2003
- Re: [SM-Grimoire] Re: split gnome ?, Robin Cook, 06/18/2003
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- [SM-Grimoire] Re: split gnome ?, David Braaten, 06/18/2003
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Re: [SM-Grimoire] Re: split gnome ?,
Eric Sandall, 06/16/2003
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