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  • From: David Kowis <dkowis AT shlrm.org>
  • To: SM-Discuss <sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] Why cmake?
  • Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:59:41 -0600

Vlad Glagolev wrote:
Now when a few people overloaded my head with a question "WTF?!", I (like the
others) wanna ask
you: why cmake? Why do you add any extra software isn't really needed to
build other software?!
Treeve Jelbert committed a change to poppler:
Commit: afb0ba7b7c81224301de14b847167922225923a6
I'll let you peruse the commit yourself.


Another question disturbin me: why do you force devel/rc/testing versions of
the spells as they
are stable? That's not good, and that's not GNOME (Robin already argued about
it).

Neither me nor (i hope) the others wanna see their box like 00b00nt00 or
something else with a
ton of useless binaries/libraries. Nowadays, Source Mage is the only distro
where I can keep
my system as compact as possible and pretty stable. So don't break my dream.
Imho, we should
keep it as minimalistic as possible. That's why we use this system.

Actually, our stated goal is to maintain as close to upstream as possible, not as minimal as possible. Usually, the two coincide, but not always.


Before I've joined there were a lot of extra dependencies in hundreds of
spells. I fixed them
added needed flags, removed really useless dependencies, and with those
changes my system (at
that time) went down from ~470 spells to ~420. Now I have full-featured
desktop system at home
(540 spells) and at work (430 spells), and I don't have cmake.

I have 584 at home, and I've not been terribly concerned about this "lot of extra dependencies" in "hundreds" of spells. By pure statistics, which may be terribly wrong, I should have hundreds more spells on my system. But I don't, I only have 48 more. And I even have KDE installed. I don't believe the problem is quite as bad as you make it sound.


Pango is the one of basic spells, and I don't really need cmake to build it,
really.

I'm not sure how pango is a basic spell, nor do I see what it has to do with poppler...


Thanks for understanding.

I wish you'd be more clear when bringing this up. There were a lot of people not privileged to the conversation on irc.

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David Kowis

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