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[George Sherwood <pilot AT beernabeer.com>]

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On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:27:48 -0800
Andrew <afrayedknot AT thefrayedknot.armory.com> wrote:

> 
> I think that you have a good insight in that people work better when
> guided. So paraphrasing, maybe a little more micro-management would
> help? My previous post alluded to this, with everyone picking one
> spell to shepard through the process.

How about any type of management? :) I see you making snipes here
about version bumps.  So what is the process?  Are we not to bump
spells in test?  If so who decides what gets bumped?  Here are three
examples.

I ran bash 3.2.x for a month or so.  Saw a few problems, waited for
them to be fixed upstream and then moved it into test.  It was reverted
because the "process" wasn't followed.  So what is the process?  What
is broken with bash 3.2.x and sorcery? How and when does bash 3.2.x get
into test? I really have no idea. I know the last time for 3.1.x you
said it was coordinated between you and the grimoire lead.  When was the
grimoire lead last active?  Nothing against Arwed, but he is gone for a
month now and for the last 6 or so hasn't been very active due to real
life.

Another one, I tested for some time curl 7.16.0.  Everything that I
could see worked for me.  I put it into test.  A case was found where it
didn't work for http pulls.  I wasn't doing that, truthfully I don't
think very many were doing them.  It was reverted for this one case.
No bug was written, just a revert and some talk on IRC about who does he
think he is bumping a spell like that.  I asked WTF?  Got an answer and
tracked it down.  I went to the git developers and after narrowing it
down went to the curl developers.  It is now fixed in devel versions of
both those spells.  What is the process for going back into test?

I am in the same position now with ncurses 5.6.  I have run it against
everything I use here.  When and how does it go to test?

The problems we have go well beyond stable-rc and how many bugs we have
in bugzilla.

I really thought that Jeremy was hitting on much more of the deeper
issues with SMGL.  His is the discussion that needs
to take place more then one of fixing bugs and getting stable released.

George
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