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["Sergey A. Lipnevich" <sergey AT optimaltec.com>]

You're a developer Eric, so is David who wants this feature for httpd-dev, so
are all the others that think about using such a feature. Just because you can
integrate your daily routine into sorcery doesn't mean you should.

All I want is to make this "feature" (I don't think it really qualifies 
as such,
like knife without a handle is an unfinished product and not a "feature 
knife")
less accessible to users, and make them willing to use it actively (by casting
the spell) instead of passively (by updating it together with more safe
spells). Strictly speaking, the difference would be to ask users who desire
such behavior to explicitly do it.

Quoting Eric Sandall <eric AT sandall.us>:

> Quoting "Sergey A. Lipnevich" <sergey AT optimaltec.com>:
> > These things just create more work but little gain for users. I'm
> > against this.
>
> Sergey,
>
> I don't see what you have against this because we're /defaulting/ to the
> behaviour you want (no automatic checkout) while letting the 
> user/SA/developer
> use Sorcery to maintain a latest-checkout package if they want (aka 
> /optional/
> and defaulting to /not/ do this).
>
> I use CVS/SVN daily checkouts for a few packages. Yes, I could 
> maintain my own,
> but why do that when I we can put it in the grimoire for other people who'd
> /also/ like to do the same? Shared effort means less effort. As 
> Andrew Levstik
> has said we should probably have a big ol' warning if the user tries to do a
> CVS checkout (whether they choose automatic update or not) and 
> probably inform
> them that we do not really support the CVS checkouts since we have no control
> over what the user is checking out.
>
> While you may not like this "feature", apparently others do. This 
> feature will
> cause no harm to people unless they do other than the default, and then it's
> out of our hands if they don't follow our advice. If you really want 
> to protect
> users from doing something stupid there are quite a few ways we can 
> do that, but
> then we'd be interfering with their choice to do the equivalent of 
> `rm -rf /*`.
>
> -sandalle
>
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