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["Thomas Blanchin" <tblanchin AT linuxmail.org>]

Hello sourcemagers.

I had not used sourcemage since a long time because of some unsupported 
hardware problem.
I was happy to test the new ppc-iso with 2.6.9 and nptl support. THe iso was 
pretty good, and I reported the few bugs I encountered to benoit.
The thing that surprised me, is that the iso installs gcc-3.4.3 and 
glibc_20041110, which arn't either in the stable and in the test grimoire.

Then, I told benoit about that, and he said me that the easyest way to have 
nptl support on ppc, was to modify the gcc and glibc spells so that sorcery 
installs other realeases than them provided by stable and test grimoire.
Problem is that :
the gcc and glibc spells provided by stable or test make a brand new 
installed software to crash, because of some problem of those 2 versions on 
ppc.

I have the feeling that so many people modify their grimoire in order to 
correct buggs generated by stable, that nobody use stable grimoire, and also 
become more and more deprecated.
It looks that some people tries to do some work in order to improve the 
situation, but if the work they do is not what they are asked to do for the 
team, they are asked to stop.

Do grimoire team realize that many people leave sorcery very quickly because 
of such problems ?
Unfortunatly, that's what I just did, because gcc-3.4.x and a higher version 
of glibc is required in order to have a correct PPC system.

I already add reported a bug the 2004-07-18, look at bug 7131. Has something 
changed for the gcc spell in 7 months ?

Maybe not enough people works on ppc to understand what I'm talking about, 
but the repetitive problems makes me crazy enough.

Is the team motivated to show sourcemage to the world, or do they just want 
their system to be working on their machine?

good by and good luck. sorry my french english.
elshaa.
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