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  • From: Paul Mahon <dufflebunk AT dufflebunk.homeip.net>
  • To: Tony Smith <tony AT smee.org>
  • Cc: Seth Woolley <seth AT tautology.org>, Robert Helgesson <rycee AT home.se>, sm-discuss <sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] init woes
  • Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:36:01 -0500

Me, troll? Everyone know I don't do that ;)
No, I wasn't serious. I have a strong aversion to Java, engrained more
deeply every time I work on it.
I also thing XML is a mistake in almost all uses. It's supposed to be a
flexible human readable markup language. That means that it has
redundancy. For it to be used for computers to talk to tother computers
is inefficient. Because it's also meant to be computer parsable, it has
a lot of extra syntax that people don't need. That means that it's
tiresome for people to write. Making it annoying for people to use and
inefficient for computers. Hmm....

I prefer Ruby over Python as well, but I haven't done much in either.

On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 03:55, Tony Smith wrote:
> On Thursday 09 October 2003 11:59 pm, Paul Mahon wrote:
> > No, Python is soo amaturish. We should use Java and change the
> > simpleinit scripts to XML.
>
> Now you're just trolling ;-) but in case you mean it I'll bite:
>
> 1. Python is ugly, but it's not amaturish. Java on the other hand has some
> fundamental issues that I certainly do consider amaturish: filename must
> equal class name is the big one. That causes huge headaches for developers
> -
> because renaming a class means renaming the file. That's OK when you're on
> your own but in a team it's tough because renames are much harder than
> normal
> edits to merge.
>
> Ruby is far cleaner than both Python and Java.
>
> 2. Simpleinit is _simple_, XML is anything but. I'll stick with simpleinit
> thanks. IMHO, XML has one great use-case (apart from HTML) and that is
> data-exchange. Everywhere else I've seen it used something simpler would
> have
> been better.
>
> Tony
>
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