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  • From: Eric Sandall <eric AT sandall.us>
  • To: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] smgl-0.7-pre1 thoughts
  • Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 11:26:13 -0700

Quoting Andrew <afrayedknot AT thefrayedknot.armory.com>:
>
> So i went ahead and installed the smgl-0.7 iso. First of all thanks for
> all the work you guys have put into this, from what I gather, a complete
> re-write. However I have some concerns.
>
> I noticed that im getting a lot of "Illegal instruction" messages,
> this tells me that some things were compiled for a non-amd
> processor. Everything in the iso should be runnable by an i386, as
> its the lowest common denominator. Namely ifconfig seems to have this
> problem. The newly installed system didnt boot up completely, probably
> due to the same problem. Apparently other people are having similiar
> problems.
>
> There also seems to be a number of stray files poking around in the
> image. Namely there are /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-.../3.3.1 and 3.2.3
> directories. There are empty rc[0-6S]\.d directories in /etc, some
> random file named titi and an init.d.backup directory, presumably left
> over from an init system change, theres some spare files in /root that
> dont need to be there. There should be as few untracked files and extra
> things as possible.
>
> There are some things that im not sure should be installed
> initially either, I liked having a very very minimal installation
> (basesystem only) and building up from there if i needed to. heres a
> list of things im not sure should be there by default:
>
> autoconf
> libtool
> automake
> strace
> mktemp
> nasm
> db
> uudeview
> slang
> dump
> jed
> elvis
> dhcpcd
> ppp
> rp-pppoe
> pcmcia-cs
> sysklogd
>
> I admit some of the networking stuff is nice to have around, but does
> it really need to be installed by default on the image? I liked being
> able to cast dhcpcd if i needed it and pcmcia-cs if i needed to, but my
> old amd system will never have pcmcia devices or use pppoe, and the
> chances of it using dhcpcd on our static class-c network are pretty slim.
>
> While most of the stuff on there is nice, its not strictly necessary
> (one could argue that xfs/reiserfs/e2fs progs are unnecessary also.)
>
> maybe we could have a discussion on the ML about what stays and what goes?
>
> One of the things that I liked about smgl was it came with the absolute
> minimum installed so I didnt have to waste my time stripping off things
> i didn't want, and every package that was installed was installed for
> a reason. (that whole freedom thing).
>
> Anyways, thanks again for all the effort.
> I'll be happy to help test things.
>
> Andrew

I believe elvis should be left on there as I /hate/ nano, but vim is quite a
bit bigger than elvis.

-sandalle

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