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[Dufflebunk <dufflebunk AT dufflebunk.homeip.net>]

I don't know... it just seems like you're giving up and admiting defeat by 
saying that we can't handle making a full proper 1.0 release on even a 
loose schedule.
I'll keep working regardless... I've always viewed it as a fun thing to do 
with my (overabundant) spare time. And one reason I was always glad I 
wasn't the sorcery team lead is that I could leave all the worrying about 
releases to Nick :P

On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Eric Schabell wrote:
> Howdy all!
> 
> I have been talking with the core team (as in Team Leaders) for the last few
> days about what the next steps are to be and have come up with the following
> ideas that I would like to get moving as we come up to the end of this year.
> 
> I make the following proposal based on allot of observations from  the last
> few months:
> 
> Aside of the matter of who leads what, I would like to make a proposal that
>  we drop the drive for a 1.0 release and the whole idea that we want to push
>  for a distribution that MUST have releases and release dates.
> 
> (*don't panic yet, I am going somewhere with this)
> 
> I remember getting into this distro because I wanted it to live on so that I
> could use it, not so that I would become a thing that the whole world needs
> to use. I see our biggest obstacle being that we try to make a distro 
> release
> w/o a real complete and dedicated team. This is not a bad thing, but
> something we need to identify and make work for us. Why not continue to
> develope and EVENTUALLY release a 1.0 and onwards as it happens? It seems
> that we will always have setbacks where developers have to leave key
> positions so lets release some of the stress and make those positions easier
> to fill.
> 
> I will continue on as Project Leader if this is the case..... my call
> to you is basically to change our vision from trying to become something for
> the masses, to becoming our own distro. A playground that we all enjoy
> maintaining, coaxing it along at whatever pace we can provide, taking any
> help offered and above all having fun using what we have created!
> 
> This is an idea I can stand behind and give voice to. If there are others 
> who
> feel that we need to go another way then I would have to say that I am not
> available to lead it. This is what we have discussed and the rest of the
> Project Leaders are behind me on this. I would like to post this today and
> list a few action points for the rest of the month so that we can get back 
> on
> track.
> 
> I would like to ask all of you to discuss this for the coming week (I will 
> be
> out of country from 13 Dec 2002 - 17 Dec 2002), get it all out of your 
> system
> on sm-discuss list so I can view it when I get back.
> 
> I am currently slowly getting a transition from Ryan with passwords and 
> such.
> When that is done I will contact the necessary people to provide access 
> where
> needed. This will take time, so please have patience.
> 
> As for the team, I have made the adjustments to the Wiki Organization Chart,
> it now shows who is PL, Sorcery Lead, and Grimoire Lead with separate 
> entries
> for the various Grimoire Maintainers. At this time I am making contact to
> move some developers up from Assist positions to Leads, so watch the chart
> for changes and I will announce things as much as possible to sm-discuss
> list. I would like to have the transition complete by 01 Jan 2003, a fresh
> start so to speak.
> 
> OK, now for operational matters, 22 Dec 2002, Sunday meeting on #smgl-admin
>  at the usual time of 1800 GMT. I will have to post the subjet matter at a
>  later date, but it will be posted to sm-discuss after I get back and have
>  had time to take into account the communities reactions. I plan to move the
>  meeting schedule back to 1x per month inline with the new philosophy 
> "Having
>  fun with SourceMage!"
> 
> The only thing left to say is thank you for hanging in there, and I hope we
> can get back to enjoying what we are doing with Source Mage as it is 
> becoming
> something to be really proud about!
> 
> For those that I will not be able to speak with, have a good holiday season,
> play safe on New Years and see you after the holidays.
> 
> 

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