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[Eric Schabell <eschabell AT sourcemage.org>]

On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 02:01:48PM +1100, Hamish Greig wrote:
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> On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:14, Eric Sandall wrote:
> > I just meant in general, and to say it again, that we should fire a 
> > warning
> > shot across their bow, first, which I've already done for the inactive
> > ones, and got responses back for most of them and removed appropriately.
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> > -sandalle
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> I understood from previous discussions that you are in *general* agreement 
> with this. 
> I was hoping to get acceptance of this by all team members, so it could be 
> accepted as policy from now on. If we all agree on things (or at least 
> establish a majority rule), then we all know what to expect from each other 
>  
> in the future :)
> Maybe things such as this need to be advertised as voting items at the next 
> meeting, and non-attendance at the meeting (or not organising proxy voting 
> if 
> unable to attend) disallows anyone from future dissent, unless they are 
> proposing a working substitution ? 
> 
Not everyone has the time or ability to attend meetings... if they go
any earlier or later I would not be there. It remains free time we all
spend.

I am looking back on how far this distro has come and it has all
happened w/o becoming little generals and treating our developers as
children.

I agree that the problems in a group should be taken care of by the Team
Leads. Period. It is up to them, their responsibility.

I would rather see Grimoire Leads dealing with Grimoire problems, Web
Leads with web/tome, on down the line.

If I look at the amount of moaning lately I have about had it. We are
working towards a 1.0 release this month, nothing more, nothing less. It
is an accumulation of work done by past and present developers. It would
be better to respect their contributions (how big or how small) and
continue to move forward.

Let's try to put our energy into existing bugs, problems within your own
Teams, etc... and get 1.0 out on time. I do not want to hear any excuses
about delaying because "wouldn't it be great to have <fill in your
favorite missing functionality> in too...". No! We have all agreed on
the roadmap, we ARE going to release 1.0 this month (or a bit later if
there is a really good reason).

Now come on team, let's quit wasting all this energy (30+ mails on
lists each day I am getting the last week or so) on the little things we
can live with, and change the things we need to (see bugzilla). There is
plenty of time post-1.0 to move your Teams in any direction you wish.

This is a great distro and I have worked on it a long time... it is time
for 1.0, whether we are as ready as another distro is besides the point,
we are more than ready (I have never had to reinstall a machine with
SMGL... EVER! Bet you can't say that to me about RH/Mandrake/<fill in your
distro> 

Please let's point all our noses into the same direction, towards 1.0
release this month?

erics