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- From: Douglas Casimel <casimel@hotmail.com>
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Yes, I read the list of look over resources. Doug in Regina, Saskatchewan,
Canada.
Thank you and take care.
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2. Re: Is anyone still reading this list? (Darrell E. Frey)
3. Re: Is anyone still reading this list? (Georg Parlow)
4. ?People think you?re an idiot?: death metal Irish baron
rewilds his estate | Conservation | The Guardian (Lawrence London)
5. Re: Is anyone still reading this list? (Michael Pilarski)
6. Re: Is anyone still reading this list? (Michael Pilarski)
7. Re: Is anyone still reading this list? (Lawrence London)
8. Re: Is anyone still reading this list? (Lawrence London)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:50:56 -0500
From: Georg Parlow <g.parlow@gmx.at>
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Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
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Hola Christopher,
you certainly appear like a great info and genetic ressource source to me!
(in regards to the project I described in my other post). So brace yourself
for me flooding you with questions and seed requests?
Abrazos!
Georg
> Am 15.08.2021 um 18:05 schrieb Christopher Nesbitt
> <christopher.nesbitt@mmrfbz.org>:
>
> Hi Lawrence,
>
> I still receive it and read it when it comes in.
>
> I hope you are well!
>
> Christopher
>
>
> [cid:1d06a876-f902-4912-95b9-0387d74847f2]
>
> _____________________________
> Christopher Nesbitt
>
> Maya Mountain Research Farm
> San Pedro Columbia, Toledo
> PO 153 Punta Gorda Town, Toledo
> BELIZE,
> Central America
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> behalf of Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 4:47 PM
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> Subject: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
>
> Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
> revive discussion
> and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone else is
> interested.
>
> By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
> fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
> permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
>
> I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> healthy as it slowly winds down.
>
> Lawrence London
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 22:54:08 -0400
From: "Darrell E. Frey" <defrey@bioshelter.com>
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
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Yes I do. Thanks
Darrell E. Frey
Three Sisters Farm
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2017
On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 15:47:47 -0700, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
wrote:
Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
revive discussion
and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone else is
interested.
By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
healthy as it slowly winds down.
Lawrence London
Chapel Hill, N.C.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:48:19 -0500
From: Georg Parlow <g.parlow@gmx.at>
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
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I am still keeping up with this list.
And I am aboout to break -for me personally- new ground permaculturally.
I arrived in Peru a few days ago, with the intention to move into a
particular area in the cloudforest andean foothills on the East side of the
Andes. Several things are attractive as well as challenging there:
a) the climate - it is truly tropical with -due to elevation mas o menos 800m
above sea level- relatively cool nights and frequent temperature swings.
b) the setting - there is secondary growth forest for sale, with plenty of
slopes and water and high dynamic fertility. It is as far in the sticks as
you can get in Peru - hardware stores or nurseries are VERY few and nothing
in between, many of the plots do not even have access roads - it is basically
bush. And I am well aware of the PC priciple "stay out of the bush - it is
already in good order". At the same time this is exactly part of my
motivation to go there, because
c) I know of at least 3 different groups of people who either already have or
want to buy lands there (the one group that already has has 280ha) - AND as
far as I have been gathering from afar even though they cherish the priciples
of PC, they seem to have ideas about agriculture and food, that is not truly
forest compatible. This brings me to
d) I want first for myself -as I want to live a life really close to nature-
and a few similarly crazy friends to develop a style of village, agriculture
und subsistence that is as truly forest compatible as the life of small
indigenous tribes in the cloudforest has been for millenia. And second I want
to nudge as well as practically support those mentioned communities to do
likewise - e.g. to adjust their lifestyle to the landscape rather than
adjusting the landscape to their (alien) lifestyle.
e) what I can forsee by now, is that apart from a forest plot as big as
possible (I would not mind it to be several square kilometers, as everything
apart from the corner I intend to carve out a forest compatible life in will
be a provate rexerve anyways), and the plots of the other communities, it
will be a transitional necessity to buy one of the existing and more or less
degraded farms, that do exist alongside the few roads that lead through the
bush. On this farm we (all of the groups intending to start a really new life
as in "new civilization" there) can grow our food until 1) the food trees,
shrubs, vines and other perennials that will be planted interspersed the
existing forest in close proximity of the village(s) are sufficiently matured
to provide -together with a few square meters of annual gardens right next to
the huts- all the needed sustenance, and 2) we are adjusted in our food and
lifestyle habits to this. Also we can have the nursery that is going to
produce all the
se food trees, shrubs, vines and other perennials as well as a shared
workshop, maybe guest rooms etc.
All and any ideas, hints, ressources etc. welcome!
A REQUEST: I used to posess a spanish-english, english-spanish field guide
for all things permaculturally and botanical, I believe it was by a man named
Duke. Can anyone point me to the website I can order it from? I had it for
years and never used it, and just months before this lifechanging project
arose I gave it away.
---
> I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> healthy as it slowly winds down.
Lawrence, I honor you for your optimism. I would be surprised if it will EVER
go away, just like the terrorists are still with us on every flight since
9/11, I am afraid the authorities in power are too fond of the way fearful
people can be governed, to let this thing recede. And I hope I am wrong!
Hugs!
Georg
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:05:02 -0700
From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: [permaculture] ?People think you?re an idiot?: death metal
Irish baron rewilds his estate | Conservation | The Guardian
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This really got me interested; somehow it stuck a familiar note even though
I have only a six acre estate.
?People think you?re an idiot?: death metal Irish baron rewilds his estate
| Conservation | The Guardian
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Trees, grasses and wildlife are returning as Lord Dunsany recreates a
vanished landscape in County Meath
Randal Plunkett strides through the hip-high grass of Dunsany, a
650-hectare (1,600-acre) estate in the middle of Ireland
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trailed by an invisible swarm
of midges and his four jack russell terriers: Tiny, Lumpy, Chow and Beavis
& Butt-Head.
The cattle and sheep are long gone, so too are the lawns and many of the
crops. In their place is a riot of shrubs, flowers and trees, along with
insects and creatures that call this fledgling wilderness their home.
It is probably Ireland
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most
ambitious attempt at rewilding on private land, an attempt to recreate a
vanished landscape in a swath of County Meath, 20 miles north-west of
Dublin.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 05:05:39 +0000 (UTC)
From: Michael Pilarski <friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>, "g.parlow@gmx.at"
<g.parlow@gmx.at>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
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Hi Georg
I thought of james A. Duke who is a botanist par excellence and worked a lot
in Central and south America, but don't see anything on Amazon.
if you search amazon for english spanish agriculture dictionary you will find
several
?Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
Permaculture - Wildcrafting - Medicinal Herbs & Seeds
Friends of the Trees Society
PO Box 1133
Port Hadlock, WA 98339
friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com
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On Sunday, August 15, 2021, 8:20:26 PM PDT, Georg Parlow
<g.parlow@gmx.at> wrote:
I am still keeping up with this list.
And I am aboout to break -for me personally- new ground permaculturally.
I arrived in Peru a few days ago, with the intention to move into a
particular area in the cloudforest andean foothills on the East side of the
Andes. Several things are attractive as well as challenging there:
a) the climate - it is truly tropical with -due to elevation mas o menos 800m
above sea level- relatively cool nights and frequent temperature swings.
b) the setting - there is secondary growth forest for sale, with plenty of
slopes and water and high dynamic fertility. It is as far in the sticks as
you can get in Peru - hardware stores or nurseries are VERY few and nothing
in between, many of the plots do not even have access roads - it is basically
bush. And I am well aware of the PC priciple "stay out of the bush - it is
already in good order". At the same time this is exactly part of my
motivation to go there, because
c) I know of at least 3 different groups of people who either already have or
want to buy lands there (the one group that already has has 280ha) - AND as
far as I have been gathering from afar even though they cherish the priciples
of PC, they seem to have ideas about agriculture and food, that is not truly
forest compatible. This brings me to
d) I want first for myself -as I want to live a life really close to nature-
and a few similarly crazy friends to develop a style of village, agriculture
und subsistence that is as truly forest compatible as the life of small
indigenous tribes in the cloudforest has been for millenia. And second I want
to nudge as well as practically support those mentioned communities to do
likewise - e.g. to adjust their lifestyle to the landscape rather than
adjusting the landscape to their (alien) lifestyle.
e) what I can forsee by now, is that apart from a forest plot as big as
possible (I would not mind it to be several square kilometers, as everything
apart from the corner I intend to carve out a forest compatible life in will
be a provate rexerve anyways), and the plots of the other communities, it
will be a transitional necessity to buy one of the existing and more or less
degraded farms, that do exist alongside the few roads that lead through the
bush. On this farm we (all of the groups intending to start a really new life
as in "new civilization" there) can grow our food until 1) the food trees,
shrubs, vines and other perennials that will be planted interspersed the
existing forest in close proximity of the village(s) are sufficiently matured
to provide -together with a few square meters of annual gardens right next to
the huts- all the needed sustenance, and 2) we are adjusted in our food and
lifestyle habits to this. Also we can have the nursery that is going to
produce all the
se food trees, shrubs, vines and other perennials as well as a shared
workshop, maybe guest rooms etc.
All and any ideas, hints, ressources etc. welcome!
A REQUEST: I used to posess a spanish-english, english-spanish field guide
for all things permaculturally and botanical, I believe it was by a man named
Duke. Can anyone point me to the website I can order it from? I had it for
years and never used it, and just months before this lifechanging project
arose I gave it away.
---
> I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> healthy as it slowly winds down.
Lawrence, I honor you for your optimism. I would be surprised if it will EVER
go away, just like the terrorists are still with us on every flight since
9/11, I am afraid the authorities in power are too fond of the way fearful
people can be governed, to let this thing recede. And I hope I am wrong!
Hugs!
Georg
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 05:07:01 +0000 (UTC)
From: Michael Pilarski <friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
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Hi Lawrence,
I haven't seen anything from you in my emails in awhile.? I read posts from
you off and on and would do so again.? I am still involved in permaculture up
to my eyeballs.?
?Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
Permaculture - Wildcrafting - Medicinal Herbs & Seeds
Friends of the Trees Society
PO Box 1133
Port Hadlock, WA 98339
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On Sunday, August 15, 2021, 3:48:23 PM PDT, Lawrence London
<lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:
Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
revive discussion
and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone else is
interested.
By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
healthy as it slowly winds down.
Lawrence London
Chapel Hill, N.C.
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 23:08:42 -0700
From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
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On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 8:20 PM Georg Parlow <g.parlow@gmx.at> wrote:
> I am still keeping up with this list.
>
I had a feeling you were. Great.
>
> And I am aboout to break -for me personally- new ground permaculturally.
>
> I arrived in Peru a few days ago, with the intention to move into a
> particular area in the cloudforest andean foothills on the East side of the
> Andes. Several things are attractive as well as challenging there:
>
> a) the climate - it is truly tropical with -due to elevation mas o menos
> 800m above sea level- relatively cool nights and frequent temperature
> swings.
>
> b) the setting - there is secondary growth forest for sale, with plenty of
> slopes and water and high dynamic fertility. It is as far in the sticks as
> you can get in Peru - hardware stores or nurseries are VERY few and nothing
> in between, many of the plots do not even have access roads - it is
> basically bush. And I am well aware of the PC priciple "stay out of the
> bush - it is already in good order". At the same time this is exactly part
> of my motivation to go there, because
>
> c) I know of at least 3 different groups of people who either already have
> or want to buy lands there (the one group that already has has 280ha) - AND
> as far as I have been gathering from afar even though they cherish the
> priciples of PC, they seem to have ideas about agriculture and food, that
> is not truly forest compatible. This brings me to
>
> d) I want first for myself -as I want to live a life really close to
> nature- and a few similarly crazy friends to develop a style of village,
> agriculture und subsistence that is as truly forest compatible as the life
> of small indigenous tribes in the cloudforest has been for millenia. And
> second I want to nudge as well as practically support those mentioned
> communities to do likewise - e.g. to adjust their lifestyle to the
> landscape rather than adjusting the landscape to their (alien) lifestyle.
>
>
Wonderful. I have a little story to tell you about an experience I had on
my land not long after I bought it. I will save that for the next reply as
I have to resolve replacement of a non working computer I bought recently
with the vendor; can't put that off any longer. This will give me time to
think through my little essay about how to not disturb living systems on
land you move onto and why it is so important. You will enjoy it and be
able to apply my experience to yours as your presence on your land unfolds.
e) what I can forsee by now, is that apart from a forest plot as big as
> possible (I would not mind it to be several square kilometers, as
> everything apart from the corner I intend to carve out a forest compatible
> life in will be a provate rexerve anyways), and the plots of the other
> communities, it will be a transitional necessity to buy one of the existing
> and more or less degraded farms, that do exist alongside the few roads that
> lead through the bush. On this farm we (all of the groups intending to
> start a really new life as in "new civilization" there) can grow our food
> until 1) the food trees, shrubs, vines and other perennials that will be
> planted interspersed the existing forest in close proximity of the
> village(s) are sufficiently matured to provide -together with a few square
> meters of annual gardens right next to the huts- all the needed sustenance,
> and 2) we are adjusted in our food and lifestyle habits to this. Also we
> can have the nursery that is going to produce all the
> se food trees, shrubs, vines and other perennials as well as a shared
> workshop, maybe guest rooms etc.
>
> All and any ideas, hints, ressources etc. welcome!
>
> I will get back to you soon. Also see below:
A REQUEST: I used to posess a spanish-english, english-spanish field guide
> for all things permaculturally and botanical, I believe it was by a man
> named Duke. Can anyone point me to the website I can order it from? I had
> it for years and never used it, and just months before this lifechanging
> project arose I gave it away.
>
> Yes. I knew him. In fact I met him when I was 21 years old at a party
where I was getting it on with some booze and playing Flamenco guitar which
he wanted to hear. The person he came to the party with was a very
accomplished artist friend from NC who was an important member of the NY
School of Abstract Expressionism art movement.
The ethnobotanist was Dr. James Duke. He worked at the USDA Agricultural
Research Service. Here is what you need to find a copy of the book you are
after:
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references you need than the ones I have copied below):
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$224.00. Still considered the definitive work on medicinal herbs and their
uses after two decades, the Handbook of Medicinal Herbs has undergone a
long-anticipated revision. In the second edition, world-renowned
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book, designed and conceived in the rainforest and dedicated to its
preservation.The book contains concise accounts of the various uses to
which prominent Amazonian plants are put by the local rainforest
inhabitants. Although emphasis is placed on plant foods and forest
medicines, there is also commentary on other relevant applications,
including natural artifacts, house construction, natural pesticides, and
ornamental and fodder plants. More than 1,000 species are covered and over
200 illustrated. An index to Spanish and English names leads to the
scientific name, and the index to plants provides its medicinal
application. There are even suggestions on how to eat palm grubs and how to
make an Amazonian salad dressing. All royalties from the book are donated
to the Amazonian Center for Environmental Education and Research (ACEER) in
order to continue its preservation of one of the world's most diverse
forests.
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James A. Duke
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*Finalist for 2009 The Council on Botanical & Horticultural Libraries
Literature Award!*
*A Comprehensive Guide Addressing Safety, Efficacy, and Suitability *
About a quarter of all the medicines we use come from rainforest plants and
more than 1,400 varieties of tropical plants are being investigated as
potential cures for cancer. Curare comes from a tropical vine and quinine
from the cinchona tree. A comprehensive guide to safety, efficacy, and
suitability, *Duke?s Handbook of Medicinal Plants of Latin America*
responds to continuing interest in medicinal plants and the potential
remedies they contain.
*Determine Which Species Can Be Used for Specific Targets *
The author of *Green Pharmacy Herbal Handbook and CRC Handbook of Medicinal
Herbs*, James A. Duke covers roughly 500 of the more important Native Latin
American medicinal plants in a highly organized format. After a brief
introduction, each entry contains scientific and colloquial names,
synonyms, reference to illustrations, notes, biological activities,
medicinal indications, dosages, potential hazards, extracts, and
references. This format supplies a starting point for determining which
species can be used for specific targets.
*Better Data Helps You Focus Your Search *
Year-round moderate temperatures, abundant rainfall, and rich soils make
tropical Latin America home to nearly 100,000 of the world?s 300,000 known
species of plants, and therefore home to untold numbers of potential cures.
Focusing on 500 of the most well-known and well-studied plants, this book
helps you focus your search for ammunition against constantly evolving
pathogens and newly emerging diseases.
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A few more from other authors:
Finally: A Field Guide to Useful Tropical Plants
- August 1999
- BioScience
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>
> > I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> > healthy as it slowly winds down.
>
> Lawrence, I honor you for your optimism. I would be surprised if it will
> EVER go away,
I exclaimed Ha! outloud when I read that, Georg. :-) Yes I will always be
optimistic, even more if we can keep this forum alive for years to come. A
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> just like the terrorists are still with us on every flight since 9/11, I
> am afraid the authorities in power are too fond of the way fearful people
> can be governed, to let this thing recede. And I hope I am wrong!
>
> Hugs!
> Georg
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 23:27:50 -0700
From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
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On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 10:08 PM Michael Pilarski via permaculture <
permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
> Hi Lawrence,
> I haven't seen anything from you in my emails in awhile. I read posts
> from you off and on and would do so again. I am still involved in
> permaculture up to my eyeballs.
>
Wonderful, Michael! That is real encouragement that the movement is still
very much alive and continuing to move forward.
I am a believer of another order in Permaculture. Mollison's statement that
the only limit to a permaculture design is the imagination of the designer
really turned me on. He was way ahead of his time.
Most of you in this list that I heard from over the years are actively
involved in the Permaculture movement as PDC instructors, consultants,
authors, gathering/convocation organizers and of course practitioners. My
activities were mostly related to communications resources and archive
building. I have done extensive work on my 6 acre farm property and will
post some photos of it from time to time. I did a lot of earthworks
building, ponds,
terraces, field leveling, big berm building and more.
Have you heard from Scott Pittman? He told me that he still reads this list
so Scott, if you are reading this post, let us hear from you!
LL
>
> Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
> Permaculture - Wildcrafting - Medicinal Herbs & Seeds
>
> Friends of the Trees Society
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Every tree seed that drops on the ground on my land sprouts and rapidly
grows to seedling stage and onto 4" caliper trees in no time:
ash
sycamore
cedar
pine
eleagnus
some mystery trees
sweetgum
I cut down several ashs that were full of seeds, thousands, most of them
germinated and I had an instant woodlot
PO Box 1133
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> On Sunday, August 15, 2021, 3:48:23 PM PDT, Lawrence London <
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>
> Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
> revive discussion
> and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone else is
> interested.
>
> By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
> fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
> permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
>
> I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> healthy as it slowly winds down.
>
> Lawrence London
> Chapel Hill, N.C.
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 06:05:10 -0700
From: Jay Woods <woodsjaya@gmail.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
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I pay attention when any arrive.
My concerns are enclosed agriculture in deserts (tunnels), increasing the
permaculture crops near me (such as pinyon, cactus and wolfberries), and
breeding for drought and salt tolerant plants in pinus, euphorbia, prunus,
and ribes.
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 3:50 PM Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
> revive discussion
> and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone else is
> interested.
>
> By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
> fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
> permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
>
> I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> healthy as it slowly winds down.
>
> Lawrence London
> Chapel Hill, N.C.
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:40:36 +0000
From: joan hhcreatives.com <joan@hhcreatives.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
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Lawrence, I still enjoy reading this list. Thanks for the work you do. All
the best, Joan Huyser-Honig
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Yes I do. Thanks
Darrell E. Frey
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2017
On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 15:47:47 -0700, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
wrote:
Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
revive discussion and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone
else is interested.
By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many fine
works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be healthy
as it slowly winds down.
Lawrence London
Chapel Hill, N.C.
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:43:40 +0000
From: John Wages <jwages@earthlink.net>
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
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I'm still here and have missed the postings on this list. Glad to see some
movement! It takes a lot of time and energy to keep up with something like
this, so your work is much appreciated, Lawrence.
My own efforts in permaculture are almost wholly focused on keeping the
magazine going. Permaculture Design is a key networking tool for North
American permaculture. You can always find upcoming PDCs and workshops listed
in our print magazine (yes, the Events and Calendar listings are a free
service to the community) and online (also free). Four times a year, we
strive to present a useful compendium of articles, many of which are focused
on a particular theme. May's theme was Mutual Aid. November's issue will be
built around forestry. Anyone with a project in woodlands management,
sustainable forestry, wildcrafting, agroforestry, or anything else
forestry-related (very timely and has been for the past 500 years if not
longer), consider writing an article for the issue. And for future issues.
We're reader-supported... there is no paid content from professional writers,
and our pages aren't filling up with advertising.
Incidentally, we finally completed the first generation digital archive of
all back issues up through #118. This goes all the way back to the beginning
of the Activist in the heady days of early permaculture in North America.
Inspiring to read if you have the time. These are available for free download
to all subscribers.
John
John Wages
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Sent: Aug 15, 2021 5:47 PM
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
revive discussion
and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone else is
interested.
By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
healthy as it slowly winds down.
Lawrence London
Chapel Hill, N.C.
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 09:20:14 -0700
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 14:13:58 -0700
From: Maria Madrone Morehead <spiralmother@gmail.com>
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Fabulous efforts, thank you so much fir what you provide!
On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 7:50 AM John Wages <jwages@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I'm still here and have missed the postings on this list. Glad to see some
> movement! It takes a lot of time and energy to keep up with something like
> this, so your work is much appreciated, Lawrence.
>
> My own efforts in permaculture are almost wholly focused on keeping the
> magazine going. Permaculture Design is a key networking tool for North
> American permaculture. You can always find upcoming PDCs and workshops
> listed in our print magazine (yes, the Events and Calendar listings are a
> free service to the community) and online (also free). Four times a year,
> we strive to present a useful compendium of articles, many of which are
> focused on a particular theme. May's theme was Mutual Aid. November's issue
> will be built around forestry. Anyone with a project in woodlands
> management, sustainable forestry, wildcrafting, agroforestry, or anything
> else forestry-related (very timely and has been for the past 500 years if
> not longer), consider writing an article for the issue. And for future
> issues. We're reader-supported... there is no paid content from
> professional writers, and our pages aren't filling up with advertising.
>
> Incidentally, we finally completed the first generation digital archive of
> all back issues up through #118. This goes all the way back to the
> beginning of the Activist in the heady days of early permaculture in North
> America. Inspiring to read if you have the time. These are available for
> free download to all subscribers.
>
> John
>
> John Wages
> Permaculture Design magazine
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Aug 15, 2021 5:47 PM
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
>
> Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
> revive discussion
> and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone else is
> interested.
>
> By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
> fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
> permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
>
> I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> healthy as it slowly winds down.
>
> Lawrence London
> Chapel Hill, N.C.
>
> --
> Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com
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the history of the world, man will have discovered fire. Pierre Teilhard
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