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[Michael Pilarski <friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com>]

Hi Georg

I thought of james A. Duke who is a botanist par excellence and worked a lot 
in Central and south America, but don't see anything on Amazon.
if you search amazon for english spanish agriculture dictionary you will find 
several
 Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
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    On Sunday, August 15, 2021, 8:20:26 PM PDT, Georg Parlow 
<g.parlow@gmx.at> wrote:  
 
 I am still keeping up with this list.

And I am aboout to break -for me personally- new ground permaculturally.

I arrived in Peru a few days ago, with the intention to move into a 
particular area in the cloudforest andean foothills on the East side of the 
Andes. Several things are attractive as well as challenging there:

a) the climate - it is truly tropical with -due to elevation mas o menos 800m 
above sea level- relatively cool nights and frequent temperature swings.

b) the setting - there is secondary growth forest for sale, with plenty of 
slopes and water and high dynamic fertility. It is as far in the sticks as 
you can get in Peru - hardware stores or nurseries are VERY few and nothing 
in between, many of the plots do not even have access roads - it is basically 
bush. And I am well aware of the PC priciple "stay out of the bush - it is 
already in good order". At the same time this is exactly part of my 
motivation to go there, because 

c) I know of at least 3 different groups of people who either already have or 
want to buy lands there (the one group that already has has 280ha) - AND as 
far as I have been gathering from afar even though they cherish the priciples 
of PC, they seem to have ideas about agriculture and food, that is not truly 
forest compatible. This brings me to 

d) I want first for myself -as I want to live a life really close to nature- 
and a few similarly crazy friends to develop a style of village, agriculture 
und subsistence that is as truly forest compatible as the life of small 
indigenous tribes in the cloudforest has been for millenia. And second I want 
to nudge as well as practically support those mentioned communities to do 
likewise - e.g. to adjust their lifestyle to the landscape rather than 
adjusting the landscape to their (alien) lifestyle.

e) what I can forsee by now, is that apart from a forest plot as big as 
possible (I would not mind it to be several square kilometers, as everything 
apart from the corner I intend to carve out a forest compatible life in will 
be a provate rexerve anyways), and the plots of the other communities, it 
will be a transitional necessity to buy one of the existing and more or less 
degraded farms, that do exist alongside the few roads that lead through the 
bush. On this farm we (all of the groups intending to start a really new life 
as in "new civilization" there) can grow our food until 1) the food trees, 
shrubs, vines and other perennials that will be planted interspersed the 
existing forest in close proximity of the village(s) are sufficiently matured 
to provide -together with a few square meters of annual gardens right next to 
the huts- all the needed sustenance, and 2) we are adjusted in our food and 
lifestyle habits to this. Also we can have the nursery that is going to 
produce all the
 se food trees, shrubs, vines and other perennials as well as a shared 
workshop, maybe guest rooms etc.

All and any ideas, hints, ressources etc. welcome!

A REQUEST: I used to posess a spanish-english, english-spanish field guide 
for all things permaculturally and botanical, I believe it was by a man named 
Duke. Can anyone point me to the website I can order it from? I had it for 
years and never used it, and just months before this lifechanging project 
arose I gave it away.

---

> I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> healthy as it slowly winds down.

Lawrence, I honor you for your optimism. I would be surprised if it will EVER 
go away, just like the terrorists are still with us on every flight since 
9/11, I am afraid the authorities in power are too fond of the way fearful 
people can be governed, to let this thing recede. And I hope I am wrong!

Hugs!
Georg

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Hi Lawrence,
I haven't seen anything from you in my emails in awhile.  I read posts from 
you off and on and would do so again.  I am still involved in permaculture up 
to my eyeballs.  

 Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
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    On Sunday, August 15, 2021, 3:48:23 PM PDT, Lawrence London 
<lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
revive discussion
and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone else is
interested.

By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.

I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
healthy as it slowly winds down.

Lawrence London
Chapel Hill, N.C.

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On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 8:20 PM Georg Parlow <g.parlow@gmx.at> wrote:

> I am still keeping up with this list.
>

I had a feeling you were. Great.

>
> And I am aboout to break -for me personally- new ground permaculturally.
>
> I arrived in Peru a few days ago, with the intention to move into a
> particular area in the cloudforest andean foothills on the East side of the
> Andes. Several things are attractive as well as challenging there:
>
> a) the climate - it is truly tropical with -due to elevation mas o menos
> 800m above sea level- relatively cool nights and frequent temperature
> swings.
>
> b) the setting - there is secondary growth forest for sale, with plenty of
> slopes and water and high dynamic fertility. It is as far in the sticks as
> you can get in Peru - hardware stores or nurseries are VERY few and nothing
> in between, many of the plots do not even have access roads - it is
> basically bush. And I am well aware of the PC priciple "stay out of the
> bush - it is already in good order". At the same time this is exactly part
> of my motivation to go there, because
>
> c) I know of at least 3 different groups of people who either already have
> or want to buy lands there (the one group that already has has 280ha) - AND
> as far as I have been gathering from afar even though they cherish the
> priciples of PC, they seem to have ideas about agriculture and food, that
> is not truly forest compatible. This brings me to
>
> d) I want first for myself -as I want to live a life really close to
> nature- and a few similarly crazy friends to develop a style of village,
> agriculture und subsistence that is as truly forest compatible as the life
> of small indigenous tribes in the cloudforest has been for millenia. And
> second I want to nudge as well as practically support those mentioned
> communities to do likewise - e.g. to adjust their lifestyle to the
> landscape rather than adjusting the landscape to their (alien) lifestyle.
>
>
Wonderful. I have a little story to tell you about an experience I had on
my land not long after I bought it. I will save that for the next reply as
I have to resolve replacement of a non working computer I bought recently
with the vendor; can't put that off any longer. This will give me time to
think through my little essay about how to not disturb living systems on
land you move onto and why it is so important. You will enjoy it and be
able to apply my experience to yours as your presence on your land unfolds.

e) what I can forsee by now, is that apart from a forest plot as big as
> possible (I would not mind it to be several square kilometers, as
> everything apart from the corner I intend to carve out a forest compatible
> life in will be a provate rexerve anyways), and the plots of the other
> communities, it will be a transitional necessity to buy one of the existing
> and more or less degraded farms, that do exist alongside the few roads that
> lead through the bush. On this farm we (all of the groups intending to
> start a really new life as in "new civilization" there) can grow our food
> until 1) the food trees, shrubs, vines and other perennials that will be
> planted interspersed the existing forest in close proximity of the
> village(s) are sufficiently matured to provide -together with a few square
> meters of annual gardens right next to the huts- all the needed sustenance,
> and 2) we are adjusted in our food and lifestyle habits to this. Also we
> can have the nursery that is going to produce all the
>  se food trees, shrubs, vines and other perennials as well as a shared
> workshop, maybe guest rooms etc.
>
> All and any ideas, hints, ressources etc. welcome!
>
> I will get back to you soon. Also see below:

A REQUEST: I used to posess a spanish-english, english-spanish field guide
> for all things permaculturally and botanical, I believe it was by a man
> named Duke. Can anyone point me to the website I can order it from? I had
> it for years and never used it, and just months before this lifechanging
> project arose I gave it away.
>
> Yes. I knew him. In fact I met him when I was 21 years old at a party
where I was getting it on with some booze and playing Flamenco guitar which
he wanted to hear. The person he came to the party with was a very
accomplished artist friend from NC who was an important member of the NY
School of Abstract Expressionism art movement.
The ethnobotanist was Dr. James Duke. He worked at the USDA Agricultural
Research Service. Here is what you need to find a copy of the book you are
after:
Copy-paste from a Duck Duck Go search results page (there may be other
references you need than the ones I have copied below):
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=James+Duke+book+on+botanical+field+guide+in+spanish+and+english&t=newext&atb=v286-5__&ia=web
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Amazonian Ethnobotanical Dictionary - James A. Duke ...
<https://books.google.com/books/about/Amazonian_Ethnobotanical_Dictionary.html?id=BPpKDwAAQBAJ>
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https://books.google.com
/books/about/Amazonian_Ethnobotanical_Dictionary.html?id=BPpKDwAAQBAJ
The Amazonian Ethnobotanical Dictionary presents an exciting new rainforest
*book*, designed and conceived in the rainforest and dedicated to its
preservation.The *book* contains concise accounts of the various uses to
which prominent Amazonian plants are put by the local rainforest
inhabitants. Although emphasis is placed on plant foods and forest
medicines, there is also commentary on other ...
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Amazon.com: James A. Duke: Books, Biography, Blog ...
<https://www.amazon.com/James-A.-Duke/e/B000APSJ7G%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share>
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=James%20Duke%20book%20on%20botanical%20field%20guide%20in%20spanish%20and%20english+site:www.amazon.com&t=newext&atb=v286-5__>
https://www.amazon.com
/James-A.-Duke/e/B000APSJ7G?ref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
Handbook of Medicinal Herbs Jun 27, 2002. by *James* A. *Duke*. ( 10 )
$224.00. Still considered the definitive work on medicinal herbs and their
uses after two decades, the Handbook of Medicinal Herbs has undergone a
long-anticipated revision. In the second edition, world-renowned
ethnobotanist *James* A. *Duke* provides up-to-date data on over 800 of ...

Amazonian Ethnobotanical Dictionary
By James A. Duke
<https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=inauthor:%22James+A.+Duke%22&tbm=bks>
· 2018
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Amazonian_Ethnobotanical_Dictionary/BPpKDwAAQBAJ?hl=en
The Amazonian Ethnobotanical Dictionary presents an exciting new rainforest
book, designed and conceived in the rainforest and dedicated to its
preservation.The book contains concise accounts of the various uses to
which prominent Amazonian plants are put by the local rainforest
inhabitants. Although emphasis is placed on plant foods and forest
medicines, there is also commentary on other relevant applications,
including natural artifacts, house construction, natural pesticides, and
ornamental and fodder plants. More than 1,000 species are covered and over
200 illustrated. An index to Spanish and English names leads to the
scientific name, and the index to plants provides its medicinal
application. There are even suggestions on how to eat palm grubs and how to
make an Amazonian salad dressing. All royalties from the book are donated
to the Amazonian Center for Environmental Education and Research (ACEER) in
order to continue its preservation of one of the world's most diverse
forests.
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James A. Duke
Bibliography
https://www.amazon.com/James-A.-Duke/e/B000APSJ7G%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

Duke's Handbook of Medicinal Plants of Latin America
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008KZCBS6/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i4>
Oct
24, 2008
by James A. Duke
<https://www.amazon.com/James-A-Duke/e/B000APSJ7G?ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vu00_tkin_p1_i4>
( 1 )
<https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B008KZCBS6/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vwpw_tkin_p1_i4>
$58.22

*Finalist for 2009 The Council on Botanical & Horticultural Libraries
Literature Award!*

*A Comprehensive Guide Addressing Safety, Efficacy, and Suitability *

About a quarter of all the medicines we use come from rainforest plants and
more than 1,400 varieties of tropical plants are being investigated as
potential cures for cancer. Curare comes from a tropical vine and quinine
from the cinchona tree. A comprehensive guide to safety, efficacy, and
suitability, *Duke’s Handbook of Medicinal Plants of Latin America*
responds to continuing interest in medicinal plants and the potential
remedies they contain.

*Determine Which Species Can Be Used for Specific Targets *

The author of *Green Pharmacy Herbal Handbook and CRC Handbook of Medicinal
Herbs*, James A. Duke covers roughly 500 of the more important Native Latin
American medicinal plants in a highly organized format. After a brief
introduction, each entry contains scientific and colloquial names,
synonyms, reference to illustrations, notes, biological activities,
medicinal indications, dosages, potential hazards, extracts, and
references. This format supplies a starting point for determining which
species can be used for specific targets.

*Better Data Helps You Focus Your Search *

Year-round moderate temperatures, abundant rainfall, and rich soils make
tropical Latin America home to nearly 100,000 of the world’s 300,000 known
species of plants, and therefore home to untold numbers of potential cures.
Focusing on 500 of the most well-known and well-studied plants, this book
helps you focus your search for ammunition against constantly evolving
pathogens and newly emerging diseases.
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A few more from other authors:
Finally: A Field Guide to Useful Tropical Plants

   - August 1999
   - BioScience <https://www.researchgate.net/journal/BioScience-1525-3244>
   49(8):663

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/284533026_Finally_A_Field_Guide_to_Useful_Tropical_Plants

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> > I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> > healthy as it slowly winds down.
>
> Lawrence, I honor you for your optimism. I would be surprised if it will
> EVER go away,


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