permaculture

[Bryce Ruddock <sycamorebryce@gmail.com>]

Still following pertinent messages and links from the Digest here. Having
turned seventy earlier this year I feel as if  life is slowing down a bit
so am cutting back on design work to focus more on an ongoing green burial
project at the Bridget Center in Kewauskum Wisconsin. Have learned how to
bioremediate cremains and interred both my mother's ashes and my wife
Debby's ashes there earlier this year  at a restoration project  for
eastern woodland forest I have designed. Will also be contributing to both
a prairie and oak savanna restoration at the site. At home this site
continues to be adapted to ecological realities going even beyond what  we
outlined in Integrated Forest Gardening, Halsey, Ruddock, Weisman, Chelsea
Green, 2014. Changes are being made as nurse species have served their
purpose and are being removed as the  trees and shrubs beneath are reaching
their potentials. That and a realization that some species just did not
work out as planned.The bigger project of concern is my ongoing research
and data entry for useful plant species at the Natural Capital Plant
Database. I  edit and/or add fifty new species per month, every month of
the year. This database is used extensively by United Designers in their
projects for ecological restoration globally and is available for everyone
at rates from absolutely free up to full designer level which gives access
to more advanced design tools. It's not my site. I am just an
employee/editor. Access here:  Welcome (permacultureplantdata.com)
<https://permacultureplantdata.com/index.php>   Bridget Center info
here: BRIDGET
CENTER - Bridget Center Inc <https://www.bridgetcenter.org/>   Life
generally has been good despite the past two years and losses here.

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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:50:56 -0500
> From: Georg Parlow <g.parlow@gmx.at>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
> Message-ID: <91937D88-AEA6-48D2-869E-F9B440E428C4@gmx.at>
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> Hola Christopher,
>
> you certainly appear like a great info and genetic ressource source to me!
> (in regards to the project I described in my other post). So brace yourself
> for me flooding you with questions and seed requests?
>
> Abrazos!
> Georg
>
> > Am 15.08.2021 um 18:05 schrieb Christopher Nesbitt <
> christopher.nesbitt@mmrfbz.org>:
> >
> > Hi Lawrence,
> >
> > I still receive it and read it when it comes in.
> >
> > I hope you are well!
> >
> > Christopher
> >
> >
> > [cid:1d06a876-f902-4912-95b9-0387d74847f2]
> >
> > _____________________________
> > Christopher Nesbitt
> >
> > Maya Mountain Research Farm
> > San Pedro Columbia, Toledo
> > PO 153 Punta Gorda Town, Toledo
> > BELIZE,
> > Central America
> >
> > Country code 501-630-4386
> >
> > www.mmrfbz.org
> > www.facebook.com/MayaMountainResearchFarm
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: permaculture <permaculture-bounces+christopher.nesbitt=
> mmrfbz.org@lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of Lawrence London <
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 4:47 PM
> > To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
> >
> > Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
> > revive discussion
> > and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone else is
> > interested.
> >
> > By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
> > fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
> > permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
> >
> > I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> > healthy as it slowly winds down.
> >
> > Lawrence London
> > Chapel Hill, N.C.
> >
> > --
> > Lawrence F. London, Jr.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 22:54:08 -0400
> From: "Darrell E. Frey" <defrey@bioshelter.com>
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
> Message-ID: <1629082448.1jhaenyn4gkskg84@webmail.bioshelter.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Yes I do. Thanks
>
> Darrell E. Frey
> Three Sisters Farm
> defrey@bioshelter.com
> www.bioshelter.com
> www.threesisterspermaculture.com
>
> Author; Bioshelter Market Garden: A Permaculture Farm. New Society
> Publishing, 2011,  Co-Author; Food Forest Handbook, New Society Publishing,
> 2017
>
>
>
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 15:47:47 -0700, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
> revive discussion
> and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone else is
> interested.
>
> By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
> fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
> permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
>
> I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> healthy as it slowly winds down.
>
> Lawrence London
> Chapel Hill, N.C.
>
> --
> Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:48:19 -0500
> From: Georg Parlow <g.parlow@gmx.at>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
> Message-ID: <01EEF51B-E794-4EA2-9EF8-59831C67726C@gmx.at>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii
>
> I am still keeping up with this list.
>
> And I am aboout to break -for me personally- new ground permaculturally.
>
> I arrived in Peru a few days ago, with the intention to move into a
> particular area in the cloudforest andean foothills on the East side of the
> Andes. Several things are attractive as well as challenging there:
>
> a) the climate - it is truly tropical with -due to elevation mas o menos
> 800m above sea level- relatively cool nights and frequent temperature
> swings.
>
> b) the setting - there is secondary growth forest for sale, with plenty of
> slopes and water and high dynamic fertility. It is as far in the sticks as
> you can get in Peru - hardware stores or nurseries are VERY few and nothing
> in between, many of the plots do not even have access roads - it is
> basically bush. And I am well aware of the PC priciple "stay out of the
> bush - it is already in good order". At the same time this is exactly part
> of my motivation to go there, because
>
> c) I know of at least 3 different groups of people who either already have
> or want to buy lands there (the one group that already has has 280ha) - AND
> as far as I have been gathering from afar even though they cherish the
> priciples of PC, they seem to have ideas about agriculture and food, that
> is not truly forest compatible. This brings me to
>
> d) I want first for myself -as I want to live a life really close to
> nature- and a few similarly crazy friends to develop a style of village,
> agriculture und subsistence that is as truly forest compatible as the life
> of small indigenous tribes in the cloudforest has been for millenia. And
> second I want to nudge as well as practically support those mentioned
> communities to do likewise - e.g. to adjust their lifestyle to the
> landscape rather than adjusting the landscape to their (alien) lifestyle.
>
> e) what I can forsee by now, is that apart from a forest plot as big as
> possible (I would not mind it to be several square kilometers, as
> everything apart from the corner I intend to carve out a forest compatible
> life in will be a provate rexerve anyways), and the plots of the other
> communities, it will be a transitional necessity to buy one of the existing
> and more or less degraded farms, that do exist alongside the few roads that
> lead through the bush. On this farm we (all of the groups intending to
> start a really new life as in "new civilization" there) can grow our food
> until 1) the food trees, shrubs, vines and other perennials that will be
> planted interspersed the existing forest in close proximity of the
> village(s) are sufficiently matured to provide -together with a few square
> meters of annual gardens right next to the huts- all the needed sustenance,
> and 2) we are adjusted in our food and lifestyle habits to this. Also we
> can have the nursery that is going to produce all the
>  se food trees, shrubs, vines and other perennials as well as a shared
> workshop, maybe guest rooms etc.
>
> All and any ideas, hints, ressources etc. welcome!
>
> A REQUEST: I used to posess a spanish-english, english-spanish field guide
> for all things permaculturally and botanical, I believe it was by a man
> named Duke. Can anyone point me to the website I can order it from? I had
> it for years and never used it, and just months before this lifechanging
> project arose I gave it away.
>
> ---
>
> > I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> > healthy as it slowly winds down.
>
> Lawrence, I honor you for your optimism. I would be surprised if it will
> EVER go away, just like the terrorists are still with us on every flight
> since 9/11, I am afraid the authorities in power are too fond of the way
> fearful people can be governed, to let this thing recede. And I hope I am
> wrong!
>
> Hugs!
> Georg
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:05:02 -0700
> From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: [permaculture] ?People think you?re an idiot?: death metal
>         Irish baron rewilds his estate | Conservation | The Guardian
> Message-ID:
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> CA+j2Q+BNg9++NgdUNUTTOhcUr8LmFvW5boAZ5YLxDbcMmuORxQ@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> This really got me interested; somehow it stuck a familiar note even though
> I have only a six acre estate.
>
> ?People think you?re an idiot?: death metal Irish baron rewilds his estate
> | Conservation | The Guardian
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/07/people-think-youre-an-idiot-death-metal-irish-baron-rewilds-his-estate?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0JY2bVLywt5o9EswHoLfLpmd1BY2hynC3MfLZ_SLTO1ZRv7NMk8iC6YIM#Echobox=1628857720
>
> Trees, grasses and wildlife are returning as Lord Dunsany recreates a
> vanished landscape in County Meath
>
> Randal Plunkett strides through the hip-high grass of Dunsany, a
> 650-hectare (1,600-acre) estate in the middle of Ireland
> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/ireland>, trailed by an invisible swarm
> of midges and his four jack russell terriers: Tiny, Lumpy, Chow and Beavis
> & Butt-Head.
>
> The cattle and sheep are long gone, so too are the lawns and many of the
> crops. In their place is a riot of shrubs, flowers and trees, along with
> insects and creatures that call this fledgling wilderness their home.
>
> It is probably Ireland <https://www.theguardian.com/world/ireland>?s most
> ambitious attempt at rewilding on private land, an attempt to recreate a
> vanished landscape in a swath of County Meath, 20 miles north-west of
> Dublin.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 05:05:39 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Michael Pilarski <friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>,  "g.parlow@gmx.at"
>         <g.parlow@gmx.at>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
> Message-ID: <1141315216.522527.1629090339307@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi Georg
>
> I thought of james A. Duke who is a botanist par excellence and worked a
> lot in Central and south America, but don't see anything on Amazon.
> if you search amazon for english spanish agriculture dictionary you will
> find several
> ?Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
> Permaculture - Wildcrafting - Medicinal Herbs & Seeds
>
> Friends of the Trees Society
> PO Box 1133
>
> Port Hadlock, WA 98339
>
> friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com
>
> (360-643-9178
>
> Sign up for our newsletter at
>
> www.friendsofthetrees.net
>
>
>     On Sunday, August 15, 2021, 8:20:26 PM PDT, Georg Parlow <
> g.parlow@gmx.at> wrote:
>
>  I am still keeping up with this list.
>
> And I am aboout to break -for me personally- new ground permaculturally.
>
> I arrived in Peru a few days ago, with the intention to move into a
> particular area in the cloudforest andean foothills on the East side of the
> Andes. Several things are attractive as well as challenging there:
>
> a) the climate - it is truly tropical with -due to elevation mas o menos
> 800m above sea level- relatively cool nights and frequent temperature
> swings.
>
> b) the setting - there is secondary growth forest for sale, with plenty of
> slopes and water and high dynamic fertility. It is as far in the sticks as
> you can get in Peru - hardware stores or nurseries are VERY few and nothing
> in between, many of the plots do not even have access roads - it is
> basically bush. And I am well aware of the PC priciple "stay out of the
> bush - it is already in good order". At the same time this is exactly part
> of my motivation to go there, because
>
> c) I know of at least 3 different groups of people who either already have
> or want to buy lands there (the one group that already has has 280ha) - AND
> as far as I have been gathering from afar even though they cherish the
> priciples of PC, they seem to have ideas about agriculture and food, that
> is not truly forest compatible. This brings me to
>
> d) I want first for myself -as I want to live a life really close to
> nature- and a few similarly crazy friends to develop a style of village,
> agriculture und subsistence that is as truly forest compatible as the life
> of small indigenous tribes in the cloudforest has been for millenia. And
> second I want to nudge as well as practically support those mentioned
> communities to do likewise - e.g. to adjust their lifestyle to the
> landscape rather than adjusting the landscape to their (alien) lifestyle.
>
> e) what I can forsee by now, is that apart from a forest plot as big as
> possible (I would not mind it to be several square kilometers, as
> everything apart from the corner I intend to carve out a forest compatible
> life in will be a provate rexerve anyways), and the plots of the other
> communities, it will be a transitional necessity to buy one of the existing
> and more or less degraded farms, that do exist alongside the few roads that
> lead through the bush. On this farm we (all of the groups intending to
> start a really new life as in "new civilization" there) can grow our food
> until 1) the food trees, shrubs, vines and other perennials that will be
> planted interspersed the existing forest in close proximity of the
> village(s) are sufficiently matured to provide -together with a few square
> meters of annual gardens right next to the huts- all the needed sustenance,
> and 2) we are adjusted in our food and lifestyle habits to this. Also we
> can have the nursery that is going to produce all the
>  se food trees, shrubs, vines and other perennials as well as a shared
> workshop, maybe guest rooms etc.
>
> All and any ideas, hints, ressources etc. welcome!
>
> A REQUEST: I used to posess a spanish-english, english-spanish field guide
> for all things permaculturally and botanical, I believe it was by a man
> named Duke. Can anyone point me to the website I can order it from? I had
> it for years and never used it, and just months before this lifechanging
> project arose I gave it away.
>
> ---
>
> > I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> > healthy as it slowly winds down.
>
> Lawrence, I honor you for your optimism. I would be surprised if it will
> EVER go away, just like the terrorists are still with us on every flight
> since 9/11, I am afraid the authorities in power are too fond of the way
> fearful people can be governed, to let this thing recede. And I hope I am
> wrong!
>
> Hugs!
> Georg
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 05:07:01 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Michael Pilarski <friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
> Message-ID: <1231816164.521312.1629090421793@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi Lawrence,
> I haven't seen anything from you in my emails in awhile.? I read posts
> from you off and on and would do so again.? I am still involved in
> permaculture up to my eyeballs.?
>
> ?Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
> Permaculture - Wildcrafting - Medicinal Herbs & Seeds
>
> Friends of the Trees Society
> PO Box 1133
>
> Port Hadlock, WA 98339
>
> friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com
>
> (360-643-9178
>
> Sign up for our newsletter at
>
> www.friendsofthetrees.net
>
>
>     On Sunday, August 15, 2021, 3:48:23 PM PDT, Lawrence London <
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
> revive discussion
> and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone else is
> interested.
>
> By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
> fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
> permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
>
> I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> healthy as it slowly winds down.
>
> Lawrence London
> Chapel Hill, N.C.
>
> --
> Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 23:08:42 -0700
> From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
> Message-ID:
>         <CA+j2Q+BBQqXt5jUUmzZZt+Uko_OtZimi51wUQx=
> 27ay5r9c2YQ@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 8:20 PM Georg Parlow <g.parlow@gmx.at> wrote:
>
> > I am still keeping up with this list.
> >
>
> I had a feeling you were. Great.
>
> >
> > And I am aboout to break -for me personally- new ground permaculturally.
> >
> > I arrived in Peru a few days ago, with the intention to move into a
> > particular area in the cloudforest andean foothills on the East side of
> the
> > Andes. Several things are attractive as well as challenging there:
> >
> > a) the climate - it is truly tropical with -due to elevation mas o menos
> > 800m above sea level- relatively cool nights and frequent temperature
> > swings.
> >
> > b) the setting - there is secondary growth forest for sale, with plenty
> of
> > slopes and water and high dynamic fertility. It is as far in the sticks
> as
> > you can get in Peru - hardware stores or nurseries are VERY few and
> nothing
> > in between, many of the plots do not even have access roads - it is
> > basically bush. And I am well aware of the PC priciple "stay out of the
> > bush - it is already in good order". At the same time this is exactly
> part
> > of my motivation to go there, because
> >
> > c) I know of at least 3 different groups of people who either already
> have
> > or want to buy lands there (the one group that already has has 280ha) -
> AND
> > as far as I have been gathering from afar even though they cherish the
> > priciples of PC, they seem to have ideas about agriculture and food, that
> > is not truly forest compatible. This brings me to
> >
> > d) I want first for myself -as I want to live a life really close to
> > nature- and a few similarly crazy friends to develop a style of village,
> > agriculture und subsistence that is as truly forest compatible as the
> life
> > of small indigenous tribes in the cloudforest has been for millenia. And
> > second I want to nudge as well as practically support those mentioned
> > communities to do likewise - e.g. to adjust their lifestyle to the
> > landscape rather than adjusting the landscape to their (alien) lifestyle.
> >
> >
> Wonderful. I have a little story to tell you about an experience I had on
> my land not long after I bought it. I will save that for the next reply as
> I have to resolve replacement of a non working computer I bought recently
> with the vendor; can't put that off any longer. This will give me time to
> think through my little essay about how to not disturb living systems on
> land you move onto and why it is so important. You will enjoy it and be
> able to apply my experience to yours as your presence on your land unfolds.
>
> e) what I can forsee by now, is that apart from a forest plot as big as
> > possible (I would not mind it to be several square kilometers, as
> > everything apart from the corner I intend to carve out a forest
> compatible
> > life in will be a provate rexerve anyways), and the plots of the other
> > communities, it will be a transitional necessity to buy one of the
> existing
> > and more or less degraded farms, that do exist alongside the few roads
> that
> > lead through the bush. On this farm we (all of the groups intending to
> > start a really new life as in "new civilization" there) can grow our food
> > until 1) the food trees, shrubs, vines and other perennials that will be
> > planted interspersed the existing forest in close proximity of the
> > village(s) are sufficiently matured to provide -together with a few
> square
> > meters of annual gardens right next to the huts- all the needed
> sustenance,
> > and 2) we are adjusted in our food and lifestyle habits to this. Also we
> > can have the nursery that is going to produce all the
> >  se food trees, shrubs, vines and other perennials as well as a shared
> > workshop, maybe guest rooms etc.
> >
> > All and any ideas, hints, ressources etc. welcome!
> >
> > I will get back to you soon. Also see below:
>
> A REQUEST: I used to posess a spanish-english, english-spanish field guide
> > for all things permaculturally and botanical, I believe it was by a man
> > named Duke. Can anyone point me to the website I can order it from? I had
> > it for years and never used it, and just months before this lifechanging
> > project arose I gave it away.
> >
> > Yes. I knew him. In fact I met him when I was 21 years old at a party
> where I was getting it on with some booze and playing Flamenco guitar which
> he wanted to hear. The person he came to the party with was a very
> accomplished artist friend from NC who was an important member of the NY
> School of Abstract Expressionism art movement.
> The ethnobotanist was Dr. James Duke. He worked at the USDA Agricultural
> Research Service. Here is what you need to find a copy of the book you are
> after:
> Copy-paste from a Duck Duck Go search results page (there may be other
> references you need than the ones I have copied below):
>
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=James+Duke+book+on+botanical+field+guide+in+spanish+and+english&t=newext&atb=v286-5__&ia=web
> []
> Amazonian Ethnobotanical Dictionary - James A. Duke ...
> <
> https://books.google.com/books/about/Amazonian_Ethnobotanical_Dictionary.html?id=BPpKDwAAQBAJ
> >
> <
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=James%20Duke%20book%20on%20botanical%20field%20guide%20in%20spanish%20and%20english+site:books.google.com&t=newext&atb=v286-5__
> >
> https://books.google.com
> /books/about/Amazonian_Ethnobotanical_Dictionary.html?id=BPpKDwAAQBAJ
> The Amazonian Ethnobotanical Dictionary presents an exciting new rainforest
> *book*, designed and conceived in the rainforest and dedicated to its
> preservation.The *book* contains concise accounts of the various uses to
> which prominent Amazonian plants are put by the local rainforest
> inhabitants. Although emphasis is placed on plant foods and forest
> medicines, there is also commentary on other ...
> []
> Amazon.com: James A. Duke: Books, Biography, Blog ...
> <
> https://www.amazon.com/James-A.-Duke/e/B000APSJ7G%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> >
> <
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=James%20Duke%20book%20on%20botanical%20field%20guide%20in%20spanish%20and%20english+site:www.amazon.com&t=newext&atb=v286-5__
> >
> https://www.amazon.com
> /James-A.-Duke/e/B000APSJ7G?ref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
> Handbook of Medicinal Herbs Jun 27, 2002. by *James* A. *Duke*. ( 10 )
> $224.00. Still considered the definitive work on medicinal herbs and their
> uses after two decades, the Handbook of Medicinal Herbs has undergone a
> long-anticipated revision. In the second edition, world-renowned
> ethnobotanist *James* A. *Duke* provides up-to-date data on over 800 of ...
>
> Amazonian Ethnobotanical Dictionary
> By James A. Duke
> <
> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=inauthor:%22James+A.+Duke%22&tbm=bks
> >
> ? 2018
>
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/Amazonian_Ethnobotanical_Dictionary/BPpKDwAAQBAJ?hl=en
> The Amazonian Ethnobotanical Dictionary presents an exciting new rainforest
> book, designed and conceived in the rainforest and dedicated to its
> preservation.The book contains concise accounts of the various uses to
> which prominent Amazonian plants are put by the local rainforest
> inhabitants. Although emphasis is placed on plant foods and forest
> medicines, there is also commentary on other relevant applications,
> including natural artifacts, house construction, natural pesticides, and
> ornamental and fodder plants. More than 1,000 species are covered and over
> 200 illustrated. An index to Spanish and English names leads to the
> scientific name, and the index to plants provides its medicinal
> application. There are even suggestions on how to eat palm grubs and how to
> make an Amazonian salad dressing. All royalties from the book are donated
> to the Amazonian Center for Environmental Education and Research (ACEER) in
> order to continue its preservation of one of the world's most diverse
> forests.
> []
> James A. Duke
> Bibliography
>
> https://www.amazon.com/James-A.-Duke/e/B000APSJ7G%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>
> Duke's Handbook of Medicinal Plants of Latin America
> <
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008KZCBS6/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i4
> >
> Oct
> 24, 2008
> by James A. Duke
> <
> https://www.amazon.com/James-A-Duke/e/B000APSJ7G?ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vu00_tkin_p1_i4
> >
> ( 1 )
> <
> https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B008KZCBS6/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vwpw_tkin_p1_i4
> >
> $58.22
>
> *Finalist for 2009 The Council on Botanical & Horticultural Libraries
> Literature Award!*
>
> *A Comprehensive Guide Addressing Safety, Efficacy, and Suitability *
>
> About a quarter of all the medicines we use come from rainforest plants and
> more than 1,400 varieties of tropical plants are being investigated as
> potential cures for cancer. Curare comes from a tropical vine and quinine
> from the cinchona tree. A comprehensive guide to safety, efficacy, and
> suitability, *Duke?s Handbook of Medicinal Plants of Latin America*
> responds to continuing interest in medicinal plants and the potential
> remedies they contain.
>
> *Determine Which Species Can Be Used for Specific Targets *
>
> The author of *Green Pharmacy Herbal Handbook and CRC Handbook of Medicinal
> Herbs*, James A. Duke covers roughly 500 of the more important Native Latin
> American medicinal plants in a highly organized format. After a brief
> introduction, each entry contains scientific and colloquial names,
> synonyms, reference to illustrations, notes, biological activities,
> medicinal indications, dosages, potential hazards, extracts, and
> references. This format supplies a starting point for determining which
> species can be used for specific targets.
>
> *Better Data Helps You Focus Your Search *
>
> Year-round moderate temperatures, abundant rainfall, and rich soils make
> tropical Latin America home to nearly 100,000 of the world?s 300,000 known
> species of plants, and therefore home to untold numbers of potential cures.
> Focusing on 500 of the most well-known and well-studied plants, this book
> helps you focus your search for ammunition against constantly evolving
> pathogens and newly emerging diseases.
> []
> A few more from other authors:
> Finally: A Field Guide to Useful Tropical Plants
>
>    - August 1999
>    - BioScience <https://www.researchgate.net/journal/BioScience-1525-3244
> >
>    49(8):663
>
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/284533026_Finally_A_Field_Guide_to_Useful_Tropical_Plants
>
> > ---
> >
> > > I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> > > healthy as it slowly winds down.
> >
> > Lawrence, I honor you for your optimism. I would be surprised if it will
> > EVER go away,
>
>
> I exclaimed Ha! outloud when I read that, Georg. :-) Yes I will always be
> optimistic, even more if we can keep this forum alive for years to come. A
> lot of our friends from this list from years ago are now using this forum
> in case it interests anyone:
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> LL
>
>
>
> > just like the terrorists are still with us on every flight since 9/11, I
> > am afraid the authorities in power are too fond of the way fearful people
> > can be governed, to let this thing recede. And I hope I am wrong!
> >
> > Hugs!
> > Georg
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> Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 23:27:50 -0700
> From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
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>
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 10:08 PM Michael Pilarski via permaculture <
> permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Lawrence,
> > I haven't seen anything from you in my emails in awhile.  I read posts
> > from you off and on and would do so again.  I am still involved in
> > permaculture up to my eyeballs.
> >
>
> Wonderful, Michael! That is real encouragement that the movement is still
> very much alive and continuing to move forward.
>
> I am a believer of another order in Permaculture. Mollison's statement that
> the only limit to a permaculture design is the imagination of the designer
> really turned me on. He was way ahead of his time.
>
> Most of you in this list that I heard from over the years are actively
> involved in the Permaculture movement as PDC instructors, consultants,
> authors, gathering/convocation organizers and of course practitioners. My
> activities were mostly related to communications resources and archive
> building. I have done extensive work on my 6 acre farm property and will
> post some photos of it from time to time. I did a lot of earthworks
> building, ponds,
> terraces, field leveling, big berm building and more.
>
> Have you heard from Scott Pittman? He told me that he still reads this list
> so Scott, if you are reading this post, let us hear from you!
>
> LL
>
> >
> >  Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
> > Permaculture - Wildcrafting - Medicinal Herbs & Seeds
> >
> > Friends of the Trees Society
> >
>
> Every tree seed that drops on the ground on my land sprouts and rapidly
> grows to seedling stage and onto 4" caliper trees in no time:
> ash
> sycamore
> cedar
> pine
> eleagnus
> some mystery trees
> sweetgum
> I cut down several ashs that were full of seeds, thousands, most of them
> germinated and I had an instant woodlot
>
> PO Box 1133
> >
> > Port Hadlock, WA 98339
> >
> > friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com
> >
> > (360-643-9178
> >
> > Sign up for our newsletter at
> >
> > www.friendsofthetrees.net
> >
> >
> >     On Sunday, August 15, 2021, 3:48:23 PM PDT, Lawrence London <
> > lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
> > revive discussion
> > and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone else is
> > interested.
> >
> > By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
> > fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
> > permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
> >
> > I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> > healthy as it slowly winds down.
> >
> > Lawrence London
> > Chapel Hill, N.C.
> >
> > --
> > Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> > lfljvenaura@gmail.com
> > permaculture mailing list
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>
>
> --
> Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 06:05:10 -0700
> From: Jay Woods <woodsjaya@gmail.com>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
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>
> I pay attention when any arrive.
>
> My concerns are enclosed agriculture in deserts (tunnels), increasing the
> permaculture crops near me (such as pinyon, cactus and wolfberries), and
> breeding for drought and salt tolerant plants in pinus, euphorbia, prunus,
> and ribes.
>
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 3:50 PM Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
> > revive discussion
> > and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone else is
> > interested.
> >
> > By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
> > fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
> > permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
> >
> > I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> > healthy as it slowly winds down.
> >
> > Lawrence London
> > Chapel Hill, N.C.
> >
> > --
> > Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> > lfljvenaura@gmail.com
> > permaculture mailing list
> > permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:40:36 +0000
> From: joan hhcreatives.com <joan@hhcreatives.com>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
> Message-ID:
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>
> Lawrence, I still enjoy reading this list. Thanks for the work you do. All
> the best, Joan Huyser-Honig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: permaculture <permaculture-bounces+joan=
> hhcreatives.com@lists.ibiblio.org> On Behalf Of Darrell E. Frey
> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 10:54 PM
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
>
> Yes I do. Thanks
>
> Darrell E. Frey
> Three Sisters Farm
> defrey@bioshelter.com
> www.bioshelter.com
> www.threesisterspermaculture.com
>
> Author; Bioshelter Market Garden: A Permaculture Farm. New Society
> Publishing, 2011,  Co-Author; Food Forest Handbook, New Society Publishing,
> 2017
>
>
>
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 15:47:47 -0700, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
> revive discussion and break new ground in the world of permaculture if
> anyone else is interested.
>
> By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
> fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
> permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
>
> I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> healthy as it slowly winds down.
>
> Lawrence London
> Chapel Hill, N.C.
>
> --
> Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:43:40 +0000
> From: John Wages <jwages@earthlink.net>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
> Message-ID: <f53b6fa1-72f2-9b69-8f54-e3c89523f455@earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I'm still here and have missed the postings on this list. Glad to see some
> movement! It takes a lot of time and energy to keep up with something like
> this, so your work is much appreciated, Lawrence.
>
> My own efforts in permaculture are almost wholly focused on keeping the
> magazine going. Permaculture Design is a key networking tool for North
> American permaculture. You can always find upcoming PDCs and workshops
> listed in our print magazine (yes, the Events and Calendar listings are a
> free service to the community) and online (also free). Four times a year,
> we strive to present a useful compendium of articles, many of which are
> focused on a particular theme. May's theme was Mutual Aid. November's issue
> will be built around forestry. Anyone with a project in woodlands
> management, sustainable forestry, wildcrafting, agroforestry, or anything
> else forestry-related (very timely and has been for the past 500 years if
> not longer), consider writing an article for the issue. And for future
> issues. We're reader-supported... there is no paid content from
> professional writers, and our pages aren't filling up with advertising.
>
> Incidentally, we finally completed the first generation digital archive of
> all back issues up through #118. This goes all the way back to the
> beginning of the Activist in the heady days of early permaculture in North
> America. Inspiring to read if you have the time. These are available for
> free download to all subscribers.
>
> John
>
> John Wages
> Permaculture Design magazine
> www.permaculturedesignmagazine.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Aug 15, 2021 5:47 PM
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
>
> Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
> revive discussion
> and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone else is
> interested.
>
> By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
> fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
> permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
>
> I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> healthy as it slowly winds down.
>
> Lawrence London
> Chapel Hill, N.C.
>
> --
> Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 09:20:14 -0700
> From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: [permaculture] Subscriptions | Design | Permaculture Design
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 14:13:58 -0700
> From: Maria Madrone Morehead <spiralmother@gmail.com>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
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> Fabulous efforts, thank you so much fir what you provide!
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 7:50 AM John Wages <jwages@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm still here and have missed the postings on this list. Glad to see
> some
> > movement! It takes a lot of time and energy to keep up with something
> like
> > this, so your work is much appreciated, Lawrence.
> >
> > My own efforts in permaculture are almost wholly focused on keeping the
> > magazine going. Permaculture Design is a key networking tool for North
> > American permaculture. You can always find upcoming PDCs and workshops
> > listed in our print magazine (yes, the Events and Calendar listings are a
> > free service to the community) and online (also free). Four times a year,
> > we strive to present a useful compendium of articles, many of which are
> > focused on a particular theme. May's theme was Mutual Aid. November's
> issue
> > will be built around forestry. Anyone with a project in woodlands
> > management, sustainable forestry, wildcrafting, agroforestry, or anything
> > else forestry-related (very timely and has been for the past 500 years if
> > not longer), consider writing an article for the issue. And for future
> > issues. We're reader-supported... there is no paid content from
> > professional writers, and our pages aren't filling up with advertising.
> >
> > Incidentally, we finally completed the first generation digital archive
> of
> > all back issues up through #118. This goes all the way back to the
> > beginning of the Activist in the heady days of early permaculture in
> North
> > America. Inspiring to read if you have the time. These are available for
> > free download to all subscribers.
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Wages
> > Permaculture Design magazine
> > www.permaculturedesignmagazine.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Aug 15, 2021 5:47 PM
> > To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: [permaculture] Is anyone still reading this list?
> >
> > Are there subscribers who still keep up with this list? I would like to
> > revive discussion
> > and break new ground in the world of permaculture if anyone else is
> > interested.
> >
> > By the way, have a look at the books offered by Chelsea Green. Very many
> > fine works have been published through them in the past decade, many on
> > permaculture or permaculture-related subjects.
> >
> > I hope all of you have survived the pandemic and will continue to be
> > healthy as it slowly winds down.
> >
> > Lawrence London
> > Chapel Hill, N.C.
> >
> > --
> > Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> > lfljvenaura@gmail.com
> > permaculture mailing list
> > permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
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>
> Someday, after mastering the winds, the waves, the tides, and gravity, we
> shall harness for God the energies of love, and then, for a second time in
> the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.   Pierre Teilhard
> de Chardin
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