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  • From: Scott Pittman <scott@permaculture.org>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@mailman1.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Permaculture as Deep Ecology
  • Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 17:42:43 -0600

...and finally, the Native Ameiicans got it when they stated in their prayers "all my relations". That is the mind set that leads to self realization.

On 5/15/2017 10:28 PM, Lawrence London wrote:
I found a prntout of one message posrted in a thread to the
alt.permaculture newsgroup in October, 2000 (formed by Christer Ellingsen,
Norway,
also the artist who designed the logo for the Norwegian Permaculture
Association [one of best works of "Eco" art in existence - I wish I had a
digital copy of it],
and I).

Someone said that deep ecology might be a radical form of ecology that
insists on human beings subordinating their interests to those of the
planet and the biosphere
and that this is a challenge against anthropocentricity - man centered
actions should start from the Earth's needs rather than managerial ecology.
He goes on to say that
from this description Permaculture is very human centered so can never be
included as a deep ecological movement.

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What a topic for discussion considering some we have had in the past,
particularly input from Steve Hart. I think Steve would say that
Permaculture is a deep Ecological movement. Scott, what do you think?

Not sure I was really "with it" at the time but my reply was this:

That's the duality of Nature, and permaculture which seeks to mirror
natural systems and which is inextricably bonded with the land and all
lifeforms thereon.
Humans coexist and interact with the natural systems within their local
ecology. You are with IT, IT is with you; you move, it moves. You become
more involved with the ecology of your immediate surroundings as you become
more aware of what it is (as you discover its features, inhabitants,
relationships, inputs-outputs, needs, sensitivities, effects on adjoining
ecosystems), how it works and how you can best coexist with it.
Permaculture is not just human-centered, it is a design science that
empowers those who embrace its window on Nature (view Nature through the
lens of Permaculture) to realize new realms of options for survival.

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Comments welcome.

LL



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Best regards, Scott Pittman Director Permaculture Institute




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