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[Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>]

Thanks Andy and Carlos.

Andy are you presenting anything at this conference ? It would be good to
see what rationale is evolving for any ethic and philosophy for this New
School of Economics. I have had chat with a number of different thoughts
with the basis always folding back to realising an ethic and philosophy
from preservation and organic growth that builds ecosystems and build
resources rather than consuming. So its a complete reversal of the paradigm
we are all locked into on a ferris wheel that we can not jump off..unless
we develop a gradual pathway of initiatives and networks. There are many
good models already emerging throughout our networks.

Andy..perhaps some funding needs to be found to employ someone to put
together a research of all models and design a linkage to them. Maybe there
is someone like Donka who is about to finish her PhD..someone preparing to
do a Masters or PhD who may like to pull these threads together.

There are schools emerging in Denmark and Ireland too. Hal can you comment
on theses.

Ross can you comment on the many small models evolving you have seen.

Social Permaculture is emerging stronger and stronger which will evolve
many such models. These are the practical strategies down the line of the
stream of Planning. Cart before the horse perhaps. It may be of benefit to
evolve the extending thinking by working through an Ethic and Philosophy to
Principles and Policy then encapsulate these strategies and models as
examples of such EPPP.

The Ferris Wheel has been very well designed since the 14th C. It locks in
every stream of society including the legal system, which is different from
law. It locks in much of the mainstream education and science, engineering
and communication/media as well off course all bureaucrazy.

To understand this is the beginning, where we need to start, it is not
about any conspiracy or dooms day ..it is a learning curve very valuable to
be able to begin a journey on designing a new economy. It is about
understanding where has our existing paradigm come from ? who designed it ?
how ? and why ? for what purpose and what gain ? Simply, the entire global
and legal system which controls every aspect of society has been designed
and maintained by the Rothschilds and their Bank of England. Sure there are
snippets of paranoia, but any smart person who can join the dots will
figure it out quickly.....Steve Hart



As mentioned in an earlier email

On 11 February 2017 at 00:29, Alessandro Ardovini <alexardov@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Awesome, Andy! I would love to hear about that!
>
> 2017-02-10 11:12 GMT+01:00 Andy Goldring <andyg@permaculture.org.uk>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am going to this conference and I'm in touch with the organisers - they
>> are keen to for permaculture to be there. We have promoted the survey about
>> the manifesto in the network.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> On 09/02/17 19:39, Steve Hart wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys..here is another initiative that could be linked in some way
>>
>> http://neweconomyforum.org/manifesto/
>>
>> Steve Hart
>>
>> On 9 February 2017 at 10:15, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tim..which idea do you support ? The development formation of a new
>>> school ?  I do too, absolutely !
>>>
>>> However fraught with dangers  of diversion and infiltration it may be,
>>> we still need to develop it. As a piece of black humour we could have the
>>> very first meeting / conference at a facility in Switzerland called Mont
>>> Pelerin. I assume you are familiar with The Mont Pelerin Society" its
>>> beginning, evolution  and history ?
>>>
>>> https://www.montpelerin.org/
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_P%C3%A8lerin
>>>
>>> Or we could invite it in association with IPC13 in India,
>>> http://ipcindia2017.org/
>>>
>>> Hear from you soon to further develop the idea
>>>
>>> Steve Hart
>>>
>>> On 3 February 2017 at 20:16, Tim <t.shanks@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like a very interesting idea which I fully support.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25/01/2017 03:11, Steve Hart wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Donny..an interesting paper which opens the exploration. Perhaps the
>>>> question goes back to the development of the world of Economics. 
>>>> Developed
>>>> from Rothschilds circa 14th century, pursuit of building the industry of
>>>> usery and slavery to maintain usery. Today the entire world are still
>>>> slaves to this economic policy which controls every aspect of todays
>>>>  world.  We have been conditioned to it through generations. Perhaps 1%
>>>> live as the kings of the slavery. It has been specifically designed this
>>>> way for that purpose. The only way we will evolve is to redesign the 
>>>> usery
>>>> / consumerist / growth / entropic paradigm or policy. It must change to
>>>> conservation / fair share / ecological sustainability. Perhaps your "New
>>>> Agriculturalists" sub-consciously seek the new paradigm and are very 
>>>> slowly
>>>> emerging into it. There is also a warm-fuzzy growth in "Commons" and
>>>> "Peasantry" perhaps through similar sub-conscious fervour. None of which
>>>> comes from a planned or designed framework or school. This book is one 
>>>> of a
>>>> new pattern that begins working in this area
>>>>
>>>> "Growing A New Economy: Beyond Crisis Capitalism & Environmental
>>>> Destruction
>>>> ​"​
>>>>
>>>> Roar Bjonnes and Caroline Hargreaves
>>>>
>>>> InnerWorld Publications San Germán, Puerto Rico
>>>> www.innerworldpublications.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But we still have a long way to go. Perhaps we could open a new school
>>>> to evolve it further I'm sure Tim Shanks would support such.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Keep me posted on your next layer of papers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Warm regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve Hart
>>>>
>>>> On 24 January 2017 at 11:35, DONKA RADEVA <donnybg@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm just at the end, have less than 2 weeks to deliver it in my
>>>>> department and too much work now.
>>>>> I'm ready with the research results and about to publish some of them
>>>>> but still in Bulgarian language. Later on will do this in English.
>>>>> I'm attaching one of my articles /in collaboration/ in English,
>>>>> unpublished yet, and still on the theoretical part of the research and 
>>>>> it
>>>>> is around looking for an economic thought.
>>>>>
>>>>> Will let you know more in details later on, when less hectic around
>>>>> all of these. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Donka
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 12:22 AM, Steve Hart <
>>>>> stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Donny..howz the PhD going ? what stage are you at ? perhaps time to
>>>>> release a few snippets on this network. Do not hesitate to ask for any
>>>>> material through this network. Did you find any models you could use ? 
>>>>> And
>>>>> we await your arrival in NZ..Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 January 2017 at 10:57, DONKA RADEVA via permaculture <
>>>>> permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Amazing project, Steve! Keep hard working and have much luck!
>>>>> Best wishes to Martina and kids!
>>>>> Donka
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Monday, January 23, 2017 5:38 AM, Lawrence London <
>>>>> lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Steve Hart <
>>>>> stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > 13 acres...river alluvial...just spent 60 hrs on the 14 ton digger
>>>>> doing
>>>>> > flood retention ponds and swales and flloodways. I'm presently
>>>>> looking at a
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> That is a great plan. I hope it all goes together well. I did something
>>>>> similar with a large farm tractor and many implements and a medium
>>>>> sized
>>>>> skid loader: as you said, retention ponds (3),
>>>>> swales/dams/berms/terraces
>>>>> and the floodways directed at the ponds; excess rainfall carefully
>>>>> channeled into the ponds from wherever on the property.it originates.
>>>>> I
>>>>> will post some pix to illustrate the functionality of the overall
>>>>> system.
>>>>>
>>>>> small flood channel that meanders through the property to design a
>>>>> > temperate zone chanampa...or real aquaponic system.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Will there be eels in the chinampas? There is a big market for eels in
>>>>> Japan.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would really like to do this also but my soil ios too permeable to
>>>>> hold
>>>>> water long enough to support the garden component. I am lucky to keep
>>>>> water
>>>>> in the retention ponds.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Put a few Sth Devon
>>>>> > Bulls on to process pasture, manure one  paddock, chooks have
>>>>> started White
>>>>> > Orpingtons. Have ordered a range of trees for next planting season
>>>>> > including 800 apple pear plum and 200 avocado.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Wonderful!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > My 4 yr old daughter
>>>>> > conducted her first inpromtu garden tour the other day for a visitor
>>>>> and
>>>>> > with her 2 yr old sister put together a salad for lunch consisting
>>>>> of 40
>>>>> > different species.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that is living right. Proper salads, the true staff of life! I
>>>>> plan on
>>>>> a big salad and greens garden this coming Spring
>>>>> and hopefully plenty of corn, tomatoes, peppers and onions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Also in the middle of converting an old cow shed /
>>>>> > shearing shed into a dwelling..all off grid....a shed it will remain
>>>>> for
>>>>> > authorities to dwell on...so its all go ...just printed off an AO
>>>>> size
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Right.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > survey plan to draw up the design for presentation purposes.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to see that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > We will be
>>>>> > reincarnating the original Permaculture Institute of NZ soon and may
>>>>> seek
>>>>> > collaboration with Larry n Scott et al for a branch of their
>>>>> Academy. But,
>>>>> > there is only 36 hrs in a day....all good..Steve Hart
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> That must be done and the sooner the better. You have my
>>>>> recommendation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Onward!
>>>>>
>>>>> LL
>>>>>
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>>>> and Systems Ecology.​*
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>> and Systems Ecology.​*
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*Steve Hart*
*Ecology Architect*
*Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
and Systems Ecology.​*
Skype: tipenemanawa
Phone: +64 220 75 62 11

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