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[Linda Ray <lindaray@att.net>]

Hi Larry,
You wrote:"...He also said that nuclear war was a
more serious threat to humnity than climate change. I wish he had not said
that. He should know better...."Endquote.
I hear you, but I happen to agree with that statement of his, and here is 
why:Also I am pointing out that nowhere does he say that climate change is 
unimportant, nor to ignore it.. 

All that Nuclear cr@p (Testing, accidents, and tiny little hotdogging 
countries posturing, etc.) is part of what has contributed mightily to the 
onset of climate change, and IMHO is a clear and present danger to this world 
today. One nuclear strike will do more to accelerate faster climate change 
than anything else we could do, and that is what I took from that statement, 
making nukes our greatest danger for the further and faster progression of it.

AFAIAC the awareness of mukes as a contributing cause does not in any way 
de-prioritize the importance of climate change. It just points out that nukes 
constitute more of a fast-change threat to the climate, IOW could produce a 
faster progression of climate change than anything else. Doesn't mean not to 
address climate change.
JMHO.
Namaste,
Linda :-)


      From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
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On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Linda Ray <lindaray@att.net> wrote:

> Wow Larry, what a great document! Thank you for posting it! It is an
> inspiration to read, and came at the perfect time, at least for me..If
> every home had a kitchen garden, even if only a few containers on the
> porch, we'd all be so much better off..


See the next one I just posted with a collection of tributes.

Yes, that is the way forward, everyone pulling their own weight and helping
those with extra "pounds"(baggage) do so also.

""“We are true time scouts finding places now for what will be needed
then.”""

“True change is to so change things that it seems natural to everybody but
no-one knows who thought of it.”
And:
“Our best will not be our children’s best.”

Trump mentioned in the debate last night the 400lb hacker sitting on his
bed cracking websites - he could have said that he would be better off
running an urban permaculture farm. He also said that nuclear war was a
more serious threat to humnity than climate change. I wish he had not said
that. He should know better. Well, politicians are still out there
embellishing the memory of Bob Dole by saying that cigarette smoking does
not cause lung cancer. Go figure.



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https://ello.co/permaculture/post/ttshhu_1qowdxzregkapjg

Damn the Matrix
Or why the world is going to hell
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ABOUT
Ever see those BBC shows about Grumpy Old Men? I’m one of them! The world’s
unravelling, and what’s everybody doing about it? They’re going shopping.

In previous lives I trained as a civil engineering draftsman, ran a very
successful photographic studio for fifteen years, attempted (and failed…)
to become a professional greenie after retraining in Renewable Energy
Technology, eventually turning to full time stay at home fatherhood.
I spent eleven years designing and building a sustainable settlement for me
and my family. We’ve won a sustainability award for our house in 2007, a
‘Glossy’ handed out by Livingsmart Noosa. Our aim is to be self sufficient,
so we can tell the Matrix to get stuffed.
We were maybe 50% of the way there in Queensland, but now…….. It’s a big
job unpluggedabandoning the Matrix and all its failings when it’s got you
by the short and curlies…..
Being a glutton for punishment, I’ve now moved to Tasmania in a vain
attempt to escape from Climate Change. There’s no escape I now realise…
Tassie gets weather just as weird as everywhere else, but at least it is
cooler.

Today, I have lost faith in humanity. Greed rules, and it will bring us
down.

“If you go into battle hoping to live, you will surely die, if you go into
battle expecting to die, you might live.”

I can be contacted on damnthematrix at riseup dot net