permaculture

["scrooge McDuck" <declan@planetmail.net>]

Lawrence & I have been  corresponding privately, and I realised I differ with Permaculture on politics and the future. I sent him my Scripturally based visiomn oif the future in these words:

My vision of the future (probably totally wrong) is an end to cities and factories, earthwide temperate climate, farming a few acres using Permaculture and living in an Earthship, bartering with the neighbours - their cherries for my Soy Sauce, etc. There might be 100 or 200 years of tidying up to undo the damage done and another 200 beautifying the planet, as well as teaching ressurected ones. No politics; It has been proven that mankind cannot govern himself, and we will return to Direct Rule from heaven. That's what I am working towards.

 

Lawrence asked me to forward my reasons for this view to the list, despite the fact that it's OT and based on the Scriptures. To those with biased preconceptions about ALL religions, I can only say you are 99.99% right, and the rest wrong. Delete this if you must. Flames to Lawrence, please :-). Curiosity, Questions or requests for information privately to me, as we don't want that on the list

INTRO:
The theme of the Bible is God's kingdom - lost, then restored. For those who doubt the Bible,
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/videos/#mediaitems/VODMinistryTools/docid-502015752_E_1_VIDEO
 
1914 was a pivotal year starting a period known as "The Last Day can be shown
1. We arrive at 1914 by Bible Chronology. 

References:: 

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/?contentLanguageFilter=en&pubFilter=wp&yearFilter=2014 

You want articles in October & November magazines. I have linked the English, but there's 828 Languages up there!! What greedy religion would bother putting up 828 languages? 

  

/Begin To get a different language on the site: 

http://www.jw.org & choose your language. They have them all - even American Indian Navajo & sign languages. Then click on 

Publications /  Magazines 

In the search, Display: Your_Language /The Watchtower / 2014 (Instead of Latest)  & then click Search. 

/End To get a different language on the site: 

  

In the October Magazine, the 1st 3 articles introuce our answer to the question: "What is God's Kingdom?" 

The October & November magazines have a 2 part "Conversation with a Neighbour," whicjh shows how we arrive at 1914 by using Bible Chronology. It's watertight, but not trivial. 

  
2. Extensive prophecies uniquely foretoldl the problems and atrocities, and foreseeing many events that shock list members 

References: In Section Below. 

  

/LAST DAYS: 1914 - Present (& Continuing) 

The Bible has over 30 prophecies making up a composite sign of the end. This was seen by the likes of Elvis Presley & Ronald Regan, neither of whom had the IQ of a rocket scientist. Some iof the features are: 

* Great Wars (as opposed to ordinary ones). 1914 saw the first national war effort. Men & women were involved in the War effort, working in factories. Look at the mess today! Need I say more? 

  

* Food Shortages. 

The 1 billion or so undernourished condemn us all. We have a food abundance, but the market system forces starvation on many; In the EU in the 90s we had Beef mountains, Butter mountains, Mountains of Grain, Wine & Milk Lakes because the EU supported the market price. The surpluses were held in frozen storage at vast expense until they changed the system and paid farmers not to farm the land (called “Set Aside”) because that was cheaper. Any politician who tried to do something constructive with these excesses seemed to lose his job. 

* Earthquakes 

Major Earthquakes have always been recorded in State Paper, and court records of kings. Records go back further,, but accurate records go back at least to 856 A.D. In 1984, these figures came out: 

856 A.D – 1914: Average 1,800 per annum killed from earthquakes. 

1914 – 1983: Average 25,000 per annum killed from earthquakes. 

* The unpleasant nature of so many people. Look at 2 Timothy 3:1-5 (chapter 3, verses 1 to 5) 

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/nwt/E/2013/55/3 

  
* The deforestation /Pollution etc.  Consider one verse, Rev. 11:18. It sounds fairly final, but the last clause mentions the end of those ruining the earth. That was written 98 A.D. Ruining the earth really only started in tyhe 20th century, although pollution started earlier. How many topics have we discussed about aspects of the earth  being ruined? 

* A worldwide preaching&teaching work would be done. People are taught if necessary to read & write, and we study the Scriptures to help them discern the time they are living in.

Many other things were foretold: Some of the political events, Prophecies describing events in God's organisation,etc. I need to keep this brief.

One of the more convincing pieces of evidence to me was a book my old neighbour gave me. It celebrated 50 years of the (English) Dail Mail newspaper. The years were 1896 ,- 1946.
Before 1914 tQhe headlines ( except for the Boer war) were Aristocratic gossip: balloon  flights;  The fashions from Ladies Day at Ascot; A large photo of 20 Royals & other statesmen at the funeral of Queen Victoria. Never again could 20 Kings & Queens be gathered together. This held despite the fact that there were great international tensions in foreign relations, particularly England and Germany.
After 1914, news as we know it started. Atrocities, crime, horror stories and today's kind of news pushed gossip into the gossip column. The contrast is striking.

/THE END: (Near Future) 

 I don't expect the system to grind to  a halt. It will be terminated unexpectedly while still a going concern. The sequence of events is something like this:

1. A world ban on Religion will be agreed and governments will eagerly size their wealth & property.  This may be preceded by a world crisis, and will attempt to deliver " Peace & Security."

2. Some time may elapse as people react. Our message ,(When we call around to you as Jehovah's Witnesses) will change from one of hope and opportunity to one of vengeance - informing people of what's coming.

3. Unspecified Visible phenomena will be observed,  conveying God's displeasure. I expect even hardened atheists will have that erroneous view corrected.

4. Jehovah God's war or Armageddon will terminate the system, and rule by the King of God's Kingdom, Jesus Christ will begin. The majority of Earth's population will also be terminated. 


/THE FUTURE: 

We have loads of positive prophecies but little on the details of everyday life. Some of the prophecies are detailed and explained in Chapter 1 of this book


What does the Bible really teach?
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/?contentLanguageFilter=en&pubFilter=bh&sortBy=1



 

What Happens at a Kingdom Hall?

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/videos/#mediaitems/MeetingsConventions/docid-502014315_E_1_VIDEO

 

What Happens at a Bible Study?

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/videos/#mediaitems/VODMinistryTools/docid-502014311_E_1_VIDEO

 

Why Study the Bible?

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/videos/#mediaitems/VODMinistryTools/docid-502013341_E_1_VIDEO

 

How can we be sure the bible is true?
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/videos/#mediaitems/VODMinistryTools/docid-502015752_E_1_VIDEO


Oct 2014 Wt 


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