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[Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>]

Great subject and a reiteration thanks Joao. This subject fits hand n glove
with recent posts " Satirical Irony" and "Invisible Structures" This work
will go a long way to building the platforms and extending the much needed
revitalisation of this chapter in our PDCs...and maybe Scotts book. Keep it
flowing Steve Hart

On 17 July 2016 at 08:54, <scott@permaculture.org> wrote:

> Joao, thanks for your contribution.  I just read your website link and was
> impressed with what you have done and are attempting.  I will be at the
> Boom Fest in your country next month, hope to see you there.
>
> Scott
>
> >  -------Original Message-------
> >  From: joao pedro goncalves <joaovox@gmail.com>
> >  To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>, pt-diploma <
> pt-diploma@googlegroups.com>
> >  Subject: [permaculture] PC - Bill Mollison's Designer's Manual on
> Ethics, "permaculture nation" and "to guard human rights everywhere"
> >  Sent: Jul 16 '16 07:47
> >
> >  Quoting:
> >
> >
> >  142
> >
> >  ETHICAL BASIS OF AN
> >  ALTERNATIVE NATION
> >
> >  A people without an agreed-upon common basis to
> >  their actions is neither a community nor a nation. A
> >  people with a common ethic is a nation wherever they
> >  live. Thus, the place of habitation is secondary to a
> >  shared belief in the establishment of an harmonious
> >  world community. Just as we can select a global range
> >  of plants for a garden, we can select from all extant
> >  ethics and beliefs those elements that we see to be
> >  sustainable, useful, and beneficial to life and to our
> >  community. It would appear that:
> >
> >  • Sustainable societies emphasise the duties and
> >  responsibilities of people to nature equal to those of people
> >  to people; that any code relates equally to other
> >  Itfeforms and elements of landscape. To conduct oneself
> >  only in terms of response to other people gives a
> >  potential to evade responsibility for damage inflicted
> >  on the total resource base, and thus ultimately to others. " (...)
> >
> >
> >  143
> >  (...)
> >  "Most nations in the United Nations repress a majorityof peoples on
> earth.
> >
> >  Talking with Thomas Banyaca, a Hopi messenger of his people,
> >  it became clear to me that we need a new concept of "nation", and a
> >  new representative
> >  body to speak for them.
> >
> >
> >  We start by defining a nation as a people subscribing to a common ethic,
> >  and aspiring to a similar culture.
> >
> >  Such nations may not have a common land base, or language, but do
> >  have a common ethic, minimally;
> >
> >  • To care for the earth; to repair and conserve;
> >
> >  • To seek peace, and to guard human rights every-
> >  where; and
> >
> >  • To invest all capital, intelligence, goodwill, and
> >  labour to these ends."
> >
> >  *• To care for the earth; to repair and conserve; *
> >
> >  *• To seek peace, and to guard human rights every-
> >  where; and
> >
> >  • To invest all capital, intelligence, goodwill, and
> >  labour to these ends."*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> https://archive.org/details/permaculture_Bill_Moln-PERMACULTURE_A_Designers_Manual
> >
> >
> https://archive.org/stream/permaculture_Bill_Moln-PERMACULTURE_A_Designers_Manual/Bill_Mollison-PERMACULTURE_A_Designers_Manual_djvu.txt
> >
> >
> >  I hope it will trigger reflection and help clarify some points in my
> >  previous email on Forced Organ Harvest in China and the answer to the
> new
> >  "genocide sector" brought by our duty to guard human rights everywhere.
> >  (this statement needs further enquiry)
> >
> >
> >  Big mistake:
> >
> >  Genocide and forced organ harvest is not just "another example of human
> >  cruelty, of the thousands that we are all aware of, does not add to our
> >  grasp of permaculture."
> >
> >
> >
> >  Do not take your limited freedom for granted, we had world war II with
> the
> >  sacrifice of many soldiers who were or could have been ecological
> farmers
> >  and earth care activists.
> >
> >  When there is genocide going, ecology people work towards end of
> genocide.
> >  That is the permaculture ethic stated by Bill Mollison.
> >
> >
> >  This changes a bit the perspective and might sound weird but:
> >  Could your permaculture, human rights activism, Christian, Budhist,
> Muslim
> >  or other religious practice stop a Nazi war type offense?
> >
> >  Care for people also means there is going to be a armed police in your
> >  neighborhood and a military force to save you and your children from
> >  corrupted and criminal organisations that will kill you for your organs.
> >  Yes, we should not stop dreaming of a world without violence by walking
> the
> >  talk.
> >
> >  Do not throw way the baby with the bath water, and not deny your
> >  response-ability in case you agree "to guard human rights everywhere ...
> >  with all capital, intelligence, goodwill, and labour"  ...
> >
> >  "Ethics", not ecological principles, are the core of Permaculture and
> all
> >  your actions and needs will be measured against your stated ethic.
> >  Practice of ecological principles will be followed after human rights
> and
> >  people care duties have been accomplished.
> >  In this case, put the criminal in the jail and only then you will put
> him
> >  to work in the garden, plant trees, prune the pawpaw, keep goats,
> >  learn how to design, implicit or in the proccess a new human being will
> be
> >  learning about ethics without realising he is doing such.
> >
> >  Not always but, in this case you need justice first and then mercy ...
> >  <
> https://permacultureglobal.org/projects/1118-mountain-steep-permaculture-permacultura-em-declive-de-montanha
> >
> >
> >  Best regards,
> >
> >
> >
> >  --
> >  João Gonçalves
> >
> >  "Ao comprar ou consumir de forma ética também está a intervir na
> paisagem e
> >  a decidir quem tem trabalho."
> >
> >  "Eating is an agricultural act"  -  "Comer é um acto agrícola" - Wendell
> >  Berry
> >
> >  "Permacultura (Cultura Permanente) é um sistema ético de design
> ecológico."
> >
> >  (+351) 96 96 80 009
> >  Chão Sobral - Oliveira do Hospital - Serra do Açor - Portugal
> >  http://ecotrabalho.com/
> >  http://permacultureglobal.com/users/902-joao-goncalves
> >  http://chaosobral.org/index_pt.htm
> >  http://www.youtube.com/joaovox
> >  http://agricultura-familiar-tradicional.blogspot.pt
> >  https://picasaweb.google.com/joaovox
> >  http://picasaweb.google.pt/uniprochaosobral
> >
> >  Para descobrir:
> >  Documentário "Alface" na Aldeia das Amoreiras
> >  http://vimeo.com/58999047
> >  Permacultura na Serra do Açor - Portugal
> >  http://permaculturinginportugal.net/blog/
> >  "Comida que nunca acaba" / Permacultura no Malawi
> >  http://www.neverendingfood.org/
> >  Centro de Ecologia Integral
> >  http://www.integralecology.org
> >  Nyumbani - Kenya
> >  http://www.nyumbani.org/about-us
> >
> >
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