permaculture

[Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>]

Great term Jono "dispersed, self-regulating network..." and we know this
works well in nature, perhaps always has. Until something is out of
balance. And, we have seen plenty of that too. And, we see a hell of a lot
more in the times to come immediately in front of our eyes in every
environment. The banksters are leading the way right now. Others have had a
shot in our history, Hitler Stalin etc etc . Not that VD could be placed in
this category, of course. What we see in many communities is individuals,
groups and other layers stepping in before the collapse. Intervening
perhaps is a good term. Just like parenting I guess. But not to over parent
or over regulate ?

If we support "dispersed, self-regulating network..." as a character of
Permaculture how do we manage such activities as VDs  and other similars on
his bus ? Do we allow the damage, mayhem and carnage to self regulate. Then
do we pick up the pieces. Or do we celebrate the Collapse Dance ?

Food for thought

Steve Hart

On 11 July 2015 at 02:52, Jono Neiger <neiger@csld.edu> wrote:

> This is a "situation" that has been going on for many years now. Lots of
> threats of legal action, some followed through on.  Lots of drama. A true
> quandary for a dispersed, self-regulating network...
>
>
>
> *Jono Neiger, Principal*
> Regenerative Design Group
> 1 Chevalier Avenue
> Greenfield, Massachusetts 01301
> web.  regenerativedesigngroup.com
> tel.    413-658-7048
>
> Conway School, Faculty
> Graduate Program in Sustainable Landscape Planning & Design
> www.csld.edu
>
> PINE: Permaculture Institute of the Northeast
> www.northeastpermaculture.org
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ahhh just read the entire thread...seems like a guy with energy ? Is any
> of
> > it positive ?...seems there might be a small bus load of these people who
> > could evolve some great interactive discussion. Perhaps they all need to
> be
> > identified. Perhaps when the international structure evolves we could
> > consider a Permaculture Court ? Maybe form another lynching mob. Or
> create
> > our own set of standards. Perhaps the next Nth American Conference could
> > fix it on their agenda ? When and where is it Skeeta ? Koreen ? Seems
> like
> > a handful of Nth americans that need to come into this conversation.
> >
> >
> > Does he call himself the new heir or prince ? Or is he competing for such
> > titles.
> >
> > Look fwd to thoughts and ideas, preferably constructive. What danger does
> > he present ? How fraudulent is any of his activities. What dishonesties
> has
> > he committed ?
> >
> > Steve Hart
> >
> > On 10 July 2015 at 17:10, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hmmmm..entertaining Bob..know anyone in Toronto that can visit this
> > > address ?
> > >
> > >  96 Mowat Ave
> > >
> > > Have a look at thisn Bob
> > >
> > > http://www.tucows.com/about-us/
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > On 10 July 2015 at 12:38, Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Do we know who these people are?
> > >>
> > >> http://www.americanpermaculture.org/
> > >>
> > >> No names, no address, nothing but a contact form.
> > >>
> > >> Who-is lists this for the ownership which tells us nothing --
> > >>
> > >> Registrant Name:Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0130037352
> > >> Registrant Organization:Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0130037352
> > >> Registrant Street: 96 Mowat Ave
> > >> Registrant City:Toronto
> > >> Registrant State/Province:ON
> > >> Registrant Postal Code:M6K3M1
> > >> Registrant Country:CA
> > >> Registrant Phone:+1.4165385457
> > >>
> > >> Bob Waldrop, Okie City
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> http://www.ipermie.net How to permaculture your urban lifestyle and
> > >> adapt to the realities of peak oil, economic irrationality, political
> > >> criminality, and climate instability..
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> permaculture mailing list
> > >> permaculture@lists.ibiblio.orgubscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list
> > info:
> > >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture
> > >> message archives: https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/permaculture
> > >> message archive mirrors:
> > >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/permaculturelist
> > >> http://permacultureforum.blogspot.com
> > >> http://permaculturelist.wordpress.com
> > >> Google message archive search:
> > >> site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture [searchstring]
> > >> Permaculture Institute USA http://permaculture.org
> > >> How to permaculture your urban lifestyle
> > >> http://www.ipermie.net
> > >> Avant Geared  https://sites.google.com/site/avantgeared/
> > >> https://plus.google.com/+Avantgeared
> > >> Permaculture: -- portal to an expanding global network of landtech
> > >> pioneers practicing and teaching permaculture
> > >> while designing ecological, biointensive land use systems with
> > integrated
> > >> elements for synergy, sustainability, regeneration and enhanced
> > >> nature-compatible
> > >> human habitat --
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kia ora
> > >
> > > [image: Picture]
> > > *Steve Hart*
> > > *Ecology Architect*
> > > *Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
> > > Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape
> Architecture
> > > and Systems Ecology.​*
> > > Skype: tipenemanawa
> > > Phone: +64 220 75 62 11
> > >
> > > Permaculture Global Design:
> > > www.permacultureglobaldesign.org
> > >
> > > The Permaculture College of Europe.
> > > www.permaculturecollege.eu
> > > https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart
> > >
> > > GAPPS The Global Alliance for Permaculture Partnerships and Solutions.
> > > www.permaculturepartnerships.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kia ora
> >
> > [image: Picture]
> > *Steve Hart*
> > *Ecology Architect*
> > *Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
> > Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
> > and Systems Ecology.​*
> > Skype: tipenemanawa
> > Phone: +64 220 75 62 11
> >
> > Permaculture Global Design:
> > www.permacultureglobaldesign.org
> >
> > The Permaculture College of Europe.
> > www.permaculturecollege.eu
> > https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart
> >
> > GAPPS The Global Alliance for Permaculture Partnerships and Solutions.
> > www.permaculturepartnerships.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > permaculture mailing list
> > permaculture@lists.ibiblio.orgubscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list
> info:
> > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture
> > message archives: https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/permaculture
> > message archive mirrors:
> > https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/permaculturelist
> > http://permacultureforum.blogspot.com
> > http://permaculturelist.wordpress.com
> > Google message archive search:
> > site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture [searchstring]
> > Permaculture Institute USA http://permaculture.org
> > How to permaculture your urban lifestyle
> > http://www.ipermie.net
> > Avant Geared  https://sites.google.com/site/avantgeared/
> > https://plus.google.com/+Avantgeared
> > Permaculture: -- portal to an expanding global network of landtech
> > pioneers practicing and teaching permaculture
> > while designing ecological, biointensive land use systems with integrated
> > elements for synergy, sustainability, regeneration and enhanced
> > nature-compatible
> > human habitat --
> >
> _______________________________________________
> permaculture mailing list
> permaculture@lists.ibiblio.orgubscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info:
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture
> message archives: https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/permaculture
> message archive mirrors:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/permaculturelist
> http://permacultureforum.blogspot.com
> http://permaculturelist.wordpress.com
> Google message archive search:
> site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture [searchstring]
> Permaculture Institute USA http://permaculture.org
> How to permaculture your urban lifestyle
> http://www.ipermie.net
> Avant Geared  https://sites.google.com/site/avantgeared/
> https://plus.google.com/+Avantgeared
> Permaculture: -- portal to an expanding global network of landtech
> pioneers practicing and teaching permaculture
> while designing ecological, biointensive land use systems with integrated
> elements for synergy, sustainability, regeneration and enhanced
> nature-compatible
> human habitat --
>



-- 
Kia ora

[image: Picture]
*Steve Hart*
*Ecology Architect*
*Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
and Systems Ecology.​*
Skype: tipenemanawa
Phone: +64 220 75 62 11

Permaculture Global Design:
www.permacultureglobaldesign.org

The Permaculture College of Europe.
www.permaculturecollege.eu
https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart

GAPPS The Global Alliance for Permaculture Partnerships and Solutions.
www.permaculturepartnerships.com